Side effects

[zooole]

Hi there.

Pretty new to the forum. My friend sent me a clip with Kream from brutaldildos.com, and it made me really curious and search a lot, that's how I got here.

I would like to know what are the negative effects this kind of anal play causes. I mean, bowel movements must be messed up at least for a while, right? I don't even know what the proper questions are, so if you have any experience, please share it with me.

[minx]

Depends what you're asking???

for the most part if you're careful and doing it right there's no reason that should be any long term consequences as far as I can tell. But again it depends what clip you've seen.

[bigdil]

It seems to be a common misconception among non-practitioners that anal fisting and the insertion of large objects into the anus will permanently damage the anus and rectum and cause incontinence. I can only speak for myself, but it isn't a problem. Obviously insertion has to be done with a degree of care, and it can take years of streaching before a person can take an entire hand, but it is posseble to do without causing permanent damage.

[bigdil]

Double posting - Sorry! Edited April 12, 2007 by Bigdil

[zooole]

First thanks for your answer.

My first movie I have seen about this was this one:

On this one it seems her rectum is pushed out by her orgasm contractions.

But since I first saw this I have found guys who gave me other vids too (I will post them in the videos section), so my question is kind of general.

Everybody keeps saying, "yeah, go slowly, be careful, be clean, use buckets of lube etc." but nobody has ever told me what it takes to be able to do that and how much time your body needs to recover, and things like that. I would like to know all the details. Is it uncomfortable to clean? How often can you do such things to your body? Don't you have problems holding your poop on the not-so-solid days?

Just be honest please. Thanks.


[Edit: image link fixed] Edited April 12, 2007 by zooole

[jkmighty]

First thanks for your answer.

My first movie I have seen about this was this one:

On this one it seems her rectum is pushed out by her orgasm contractions.

But since I first saw this I have found guys who gave me other vids too (I will post them in the videos section), so my question is kind of general.

Everybody keeps saying, "yeah, go slowly, be careful, be clean, use buckets of lube etc." but nobody has ever told me what it takes to be able to do that and how much time your body needs to recover, and things like that. I would like to know all the details. Is it uncomfortable to clean? How often can you do such things to your body? Don't you have problems holding your poop on the not-so-solid days?

Just be honest please. Thanks.

Well, I'm not really into "extreme" anal play, but as far as I can say it seems that anal sex has a tendency to strengthen the muscles in that entire region, rather than weaken them. True, you need to learn more muscle control so as to relax muscles that stay tense by reflex, but this does not mean that you can't simply tighten up again when playtime's over. I'm sure it's possible to do serious harm to yourself with larger objects (MrHands.MPG comes to mind... ) but that should not be an issue if you are careful, listen to your body, and don't have sex with horses.

[astarott]

First thanks for your answer.

My first movie I have seen about this was this one:

On this one it seems her rectum is pushed out by her orgasm contractions.

But since I first saw this I have found guys who gave me other vids too (I will post them in the videos section), so my question is kind of general.

Everybody keeps saying, "yeah, go slowly, be careful, be clean, use buckets of lube etc." but nobody has ever told me what it takes to be able to do that and how much time your body needs to recover, and things like that. I would like to know all the details. Is it uncomfortable to clean? How often can you do such things to your body? Don't you have problems holding your poop on the not-so-solid days?

Just be honest please. Thanks.

well maybe i'm not as experienced with this stufff, but maybe i can help answer to your questions, in my case, i started just with one finger, and with time go with more, then i insert some objects, so start with something small and slowly insert larger objects. Before i play, i do enema just with water from my shower to clean myself ;-) And about the poop thing, well i cant do enything something like one or half a day, and afther that everythings get back to normal,

sorry for my eanglish, hope you understed what im talking about

[zooole]

Thank you for the honest responses.

astarott, your English is fine, I understood everything.

Male anal play is very new to me.
I get excited about this Kream thing because I love anal with my gf, but she doesn't like it that much, I think she kind of "lets me do it" instead of "asking me to do it"... She can't have anal orgasms (just yet ), I heard about it before, but it was like a myth to me. Her most intense orgasms are g spot orgasms, and those have nothing to do with my penis either (), so I'm thinking about getting a big dildo like in that movie, and try to simulate her g spot anally. I would love to see her come this way - I just wasn't sure if it's healthy. I don't think she should turn "inside out"...

So my main interest in this topic has to do with the orgasms, I don't quite understand the reasons for extreme stretching, and huge insertions. But I would love to know why somebody does this. Is it just a turn-on for her partner or does she really enjoy the pain from the stretching? And what's so good about it if it doesn't end in an orgasm?

I would also appreciate hearing the male perspective. I have heard about anal prostate simulation, never really tried it before, but what do you guys get from stretching and prolapsing?

[prolaptotron]

frequent stretching of a muscle which is not designed to accomodate items larger than your average turd is the reason why mila shegol is now wearing adult incontinence pants.

a prolapse is a result of the rectal wall detatching from it's place inside the gut (due to deep insertions or constantly straining too hard on the toilet) and flapping about inside allowing the prolapsee to contract or expel it according to his/her own muscle control.

no doubt people who are into at this will have stronger muscles down there then your average human and subsequently have very healthy bowels into old age, but only as long as they keep exercising those muscles in the same way. but going easy and taking things in moderation are the key to getting anything long term out of this, i mean if you divebomb your virgin ass onto a fire hydrant tomorrow then it's gonna break to hell and it will simply never be the same again, like any physical pursuit, you have to crawl before you can walk, practice makes perfect, etc.

as cool as it is to see, and although it illustrates a certain hardcoreness, (much in the same way a facial tattoo does), i'm pretty sure i'd rather keep my guts inside and my ass water tight, in spite of any pleasure i might get from it.

from the 'orgazmic' point of view check out puckerup.com, the anal advisor section, there's a whole bunch of factually based stuff right there about it. if you are 'into it' then i would imagine the excitement of simply engaging in the act would make you so much more succeptable to any form of orgazm, prostate or g-spot. inversely this is probably why rape victims never seem to have a good time.

[anllover]

... She can't have anal orgasms (just yet ), I heard about it before, but it was like a myth to me. Her most intense orgasms are g spot orgasms, and those have nothing to do with my penis either (), so I'm thinking about getting a big dildo like in that movie, and try to simulate her g spot anally. I would love to see her come this way - I just wasn't sure if it's healthy. I don't think she should turn "inside out"...

So my main interest in this topic has to do with the orgasms, I don't quite understand the reasons for extreme stretching, and huge insertions.....

if anal orgasm is what you are after just keep trying anal sex (regular). try diffferent possitions but most important is get her excited before you go for her ass. you will get much better results. from what you have said there is no reason for you to get any dildos for you goal. also i would suggest doggy style or standing doggy.
as far as large toys and stretching many people start (ok pretty much all) small. they enjoy the full feeling and the pressure from being full so they want more and more. it is mearly fallowing a feeling

....mila shegol is now wearing adult incontinence pants...

many people have said this but where is the proof? i have read about her and research her for years and this diaper thing has never proved itself as more than just rumors. Mila enjoyed herself but at her time in porn NOBODY was really ready for her extreme games... was looked at as a freak (probably) so she decided to leave the business. (well that is how i see it and mine makes more since)

[zooole]

from the 'orgazmic' point of view check out puckerup.com, the anal advisor section, there's a whole bunch of factually based stuff right there about it.

Yes, we atcually own Tristan's book.

if anal orgasm is what you are after just keep trying anal sex (regular). try diffferent possitions but most important is get her excited before you go for her ass. you will get much better results. from what you have said there is no reason for you to get any dildos for you goal. also i would suggest doggy style or standing doggy.

Thanks for the advice - I know I seem to be a rookie (and I am in the field of extreme anal stuff), but I'm not some ass-ripper redneck (I hope). It's not even possible for me to penetrate painlessly if she is not arused.
We tried dozens of positions, but none seem to help her reach orgasm anally.

I was thinking about a dildo because it would be easier to stimulate the wall on the vaginal side with it (where her g spot is), I could move it around more freely and deeper. After she can reach the orgasm with that we can try to learn it the hader, more natural way too. We had the same with her vaginal orgasms too-- first she couldn't have any no matter what, then after I could do it with my hand, she learned the spot and the technique and the movements and now she can position herself in the way she can reach the orgasm.

I'm still quite concerned tho. As I said, I wouldn't like her to prolapse (even if it's not that unhealthy). Her muscle contractions will turn her inside out I'm afraid if she is all loose down there (which she will if I do it right).


Is Mila really wearing adult diapers?
Just googled around a bit; I don't see many (at least seemingly) valid info about this. There is one site talking about it, but it sound more like a sensationalist exagguration. Here, judge it yourself:

This Ukrainian-born slut [Mila] stands just over five feet tall, but has a demanding way about her that makes her seem like a whirling dervish of dirty movies. She's an anal queen of the first order and often resorts to guttural moans and groans when getting her sphincter stretched to ungodly extremes. In the past year, Mila capitalized on her prolapsed sphincter, making her, in our estimation, the first porn star to wear Depends diapers by the time she's 30. She's small boned with pert breasts and has spent most of her career getting crammed and poked in the most sensational and down and dirty, low budget sexvids. She's a porn star for your late night perv wet dreams. In movies like The Violation of Chandler, Mila shoots colored liquid from her distended bungus for a disgusting and riveting act of anal overindulgence. Mila is one of the more guilty pleasures of porn star lusting More...

"...in our estimation..."

[prolaptotron]

i've no evidence so far regarding mila's diapers, it's just a cool story, but some billionaire client of hers at the bunny ranch married her so that's why she doesn't do porn anymore.

but getting back to zooole's idea, blasting her in the ass whilst she simultaneously jams a righteous dildoid up her cooter sure is sounding like the way to go.

[fusion_400]

Well ofcourse there are many side effects to this stretching. There is a large production of mucousa (ass slime) when doing extreme stretching. Thats the rectum trying to protect itself also the rectum gets easily worn so despite not seeing much blood when ur actually doing the stretching there can be quite some blood mixed with mucousa afterwards this overproduction can keep on going for almost a day and can be annoying. Then u can have alot of gas in the stomach. Irregular bowel movements and change of bacteria in the intestine is also a problem.

Also a loss of function in the internal sphincter can lead to a state called compaction where the shit goes down directly (or atleast some of it) to the rectum instead of staying in the lower colon and only coming down when u want to poop.

Also ofcourse there are risks for serious infections and tearing.

[fusion_400]

Well ofcourse there are many side effects to this stretching. There is a large production of mucousa (ass slime) when doing extreme stretching. Thats the rectum trying to protect itself also the rectum gets easily worn so despite not seeing much blood when ur actually doing the stretching there can be quite some blood mixed with mucousa afterwards this overproduction can keep on going for almost a day and can be annoying. Then u can have alot of gas in the stomach. Irregular bowel movements and change of bacteria in the intestine is also a problem.

Also a loss of function in the internal sphincter can lead to a state called compaction where the shit goes down directly (or atleast some of it) to the rectum instead of staying in the lower colon and only coming down when u want to poop.

Also ofcourse there are risks for serious infections and tearing. Edited April 12, 2007 by fusion_400

[soetep]

whoops, the board is really slow these days.

Anyway, I have experienced after butt plug play for hours during several weeks, a mild problem with incontinence for flatus (ie farts).

And I have also read the testimony of a german gentleman who was very much into femdom assplay. He had to administer several enemas a day in order not to have 'accidents'. The man in question was also so honest as to admit he allows one of the mistresses to kick him in the ass (-literally that is-) and that it actually caused 'trauma'.

So here we are again at yer typical adagium 'go slow, lots of lube, be aware (of aids, the sigmoid turn ...)' that will keep you out of trouble.

Have fun

[zooole]

Thank you for all the responses, guys.

but getting back to zooole's idea, blasting her in the ass whilst she simultaneously jams a righteous dildoid up her cooter sure is sounding like the way to go.

I actaully menant simulating her g spot from her ass.

Well, gonna try it today, I'm off to buy a dildo.

[minx]

Zoole - What can I say. It won't work. It wouldn't for me anyway! It is rare that you will hit her gspot from inside her ass, trust me on this. If you have problems getting it anyway the ass theory will NOT work.

If you want her to enjoy it then going at it with a dildo will not work. There's far less feeling and to be honest if I'm getting fucked with a dildo it's annoying.

She will only have an anal orgasm if she feels completely comfortable and particularly horny. It's very rare for women. IMO the best way forward is to get her to the edge of orgasm then while you take her (slowly) she rubs her own clit. Best position for comfort and ease is doggy or on her side. One of my earlier favourites was the guy on his side and me at right angles to him if that makes sense? That way there was still the intimacy, everything could still be reached but the woman is still in control.

As for the prolapsing thing it's really not my scene either, but I've lost count of the number of times I've gone slightly mad and my arse is still fine thank you! With a lot of the fisting and stretching stuff you learn more muscle control than the average person, and you learn to stop when something doesn't feel right.

It sounds like you have one hell of a girlfriend there, so go easy on her. It isn't everyone's scene, and the fact that she does it for your enjoyment as it is is good alone.

Oh, and quick in and out movements often aren't that nice, she might get more from feeling full and stretched but with no in and out movement.

Hope that helps.

Oh, and if you ever do really go at it she can probably expect to be a bit farty later.

[zooole]

Zoole - What can I say. It won't work. It wouldn't for me anyway! It is rare that you will hit her gspot from inside her ass, trust me on this. If you have problems getting it anyway the ass theory will NOT work.

If you want her to enjoy it then going at it with a dildo will not work. There's far less feeling and to be honest if I'm getting fucked with a dildo it's annoying.

She will only have an anal orgasm if she feels completely comfortable and particularly horny. It's very rare for women. IMO the best way forward is to get her to the edge of orgasm then while you take her (slowly) she rubs her own clit. Best position for comfort and ease is doggy or on her side. One of my earlier favourites was the guy on his side and me at right angles to him if that makes sense? That way there was still the intimacy, everything could still be reached but the woman is still in control.

As for the prolapsing thing it's really not my scene either, but I've lost count of the number of times I've gone slightly mad and my arse is still fine thank you! With a lot of the fisting and stretching stuff you learn more muscle control than the average person, and you learn to stop when something doesn't feel right.

It sounds like you have one hell of a girlfriend there, so go easy on her. It isn't everyone's scene, and the fact that she does it for your enjoyment as it is is good alone.

Oh, and quick in and out movements often aren't that nice, she might get more from feeling full and stretched but with no in and out movement.

Hope that helps.

Oh, and if you ever do really go at it she can probably expect to be a bit farty later.

Thank you very much for all the advice you gave me.
As I said now she has both clitoral and g spot orgasms, but we never do clit together any more - she says it's not intense enough and doesn't last as long as the other.
See, I really believe the girl on the video I mentioned has a g spot orgasm too - I assumed this because she seems to squirt, and for us squirting only happens that way. Even though the amount she quirted seemed a little too much, and I know that the pleasure of the women is fake in 98% of the porn movies, but to me it looked genuine.
You know, it just would be great if she could come that way too - and I'm sure she could do it with me too later on, without the dildo. As I mentioned before, we couldn't do this g-spot thing either at first, then I could make her cum with my hands, and later she learned it, and now she can do it with just my dick in almost every position. And to tell you the truth her g spot orgasms are 80% technique. Even the most aroused, most trusting, most orgasmic girl won't be able to do it if you don't know the how. Gotta learn it like anything else.
I know it's hard and rare, but if it's physically possible (for her), I think we'll be able to do it sooner or later.
Well, it won't be the end of the world if we can't do it - I just want her to enjoy anal sex as much as I do. I love the feeling, I love the sight, but she says there's nothing special in it for her, so basically that's what I'm hoping to change.

I bought an 8-inch rubber dildo not too long ago (along with many other things - gee, I spent a fortune there ). Gonna try it tonight, we'll see. I mean experimenting is not some sin or anything...

I will share the news with you.

[prolaptotron]

I will share the news with you.

share it in video format, with commentary by david attenborough, and don't forget to intersperse the good bits with james bond car chase music.

[zooole]

share it in video format, with commentary by david attenborough, and don't forget to intersperse the good bits with james bond car chase music.

[anllover]

zooole,

i have read the quote about Mila before but the problem is i dont beleive the source for that. i mean when on the net you need to know when you can put stock into something and look for something to back it up, and when to just throw it all in the trash. Like i said she was looked at by many as a freak and anyone could put anything on any number of websites..................... but that doesnt make it even close to the truth. and if it was the case 25% of the members of this board would also be in her same shoes and NOONE have said they have to wear diapers.

i have judged for myself and still beleive she doesnt wear diapers.
next time please quote your source.

[zooole]

zooole,

i have read the quote about Mila before but the problem is i dont beleive the source for that. i mean when on the net you need to know when you can put stock into something and look for something to back it up, and when to just throw it all in the trash. Like i said she was looked at by many as a freak and anyone could put anything on any number of websites..................... but that doesnt make it even close to the truth. and if it was the case 25% of the members of this board would also be in her same shoes and NOONE have said they have to wear diapers.

i have judged for myself and still beleive she doesnt wear diapers.
next time please quote your source.

Good, it would be even better if you have read the message itself also.

I said things like I didn't see valid info on this, and the article sounds like "a sensationalist exagguration" after the quote I even highlighted the author's own words that prove it's not some backed up truth...

I have absolutely no idea why you wrote this message TO me.

[anllover]

Good, it would be even better if you have read the message itself also.

I said things like I didn't see valid info on this, and the article sounds like "a sensationalist exagguration" after the quote I even highlighted the author's own words that prove it's not some backed up truth...

I have absolutely no idea why you wrote this message TO me.

just chatting back and forth... and you had qouted but didnt say where from, and was maybe hoping you would say the link rather than me searching for it again. but thanks for sharing it, it was exactally what i have read before.

is all good bro. but back to the topic i still think you will have better luck giving your gal an anal orgasm with your cock then a dildo. you can feel with your cock and adjust better than what you can feel with a dildo. if you do plan on using a dildo just be slow and keep aware of her reactions.

good luck

anllover

[zooole]

...if you do plan on using a dildo just be slow and keep aware of her reactions...

That's exactly what we're going to do. Proceed very slowly. Thanks for the advice and good wishes.

Well, just tried our new dildo in action - it turne out to be a little oversized.
So we just used some anal beads, and did usual stuff. But she is also quite excited about this wole anal-orgasm thing, so I think sooner or later we'll get to it. Or we won't... Either way, I'm gonna tell the results.

[gninori]

i read that story about mila
and from a literary, stylistic point of view, i'd like to think it's true. suspension of believability whatever ...
the very pioneer in anal magics and antics, victim of her own fate and fame, diapers the stigmata of her way to asshole's Holiness

about people not wearing diapers, two considerations
- if someone is, i guess they are not very keen on talking about it. even too shy to talk here in this friendly board. what's the talk on extreme gays's boards?
- it's too early, maybe? we don't have enough medical-statistical data on what happens after 40 years of absolute abuse of your anus and when you're aged 70 and more. because the extreme anal drift is not older than 25, 30 years i guess. apart from some "excessive" players, existed in every age, but then too socially punishable to get out of their closet and tell us their story. fuck, i can't forget what happened to oscar wilde, alan turing, etc.... go figure going about saying you take or took fists or bottles up your ass