Post on Reddit about health problems with extreme anal play

[secretkink]

Question:

I’m just curious if anyone knows. Are there any health consequences to having a gaping asshole like this? Or is it just able to stretch that much.

Reply by "jjgoodlay":

Yes, there are.

HKJ told on chat there are many years since she was last able to shit normally. She has to take daily enemas to take care of that.

The walls of her colon have become abnormally thick - which you can easily see in her HD videos - because of all that anal play. This in itself is a health hazard (it's easier to develop tumors) but it also prevents the natural colon spasms required to move shit along.

So even if she stops the anal play and has a shit transplant to repopulate her colon with the required bacteria, there's a very high chance her colon is mechanically disabled and can't move shit along.

So she has to take those daily enemas or switch to a diet that ensures ~liquid shit coupled with permanent diapers because there is no way in hell her asshole is able to hold anything in against even the slightest internal pressure.

Siswet19 is 100% on the same path as HKJ and she'll get there a lot faster because she's been a lot more extreme than HKJ was at her age.

Extreme anal play like these girls do will leave a mark. You can still do pretty extreme anal stuff without getting anywhere close to where they are in terms of body damage if you do it a lot less frequently than daily and you don't aim to shove things as deep as they do every single time.

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I haven't reached extreme sizes or depths yet but I worry if it's worth trying because of the risks of health issues. So honestly, what are the risks, future health issues, etc?  

[rusty648]

Do you have a link to that reddit post? I'd like to check it out. Thanks.

[secretkink]

1 hour ago, rusty648 said:

Do you have a link to that reddit post? I'd like to check it out. Thanks.

First comments here

[AzFrNick]

What are this guy's credentials? Is he a medical doctor? A proctologist?

Ok, so the rest of this response may be a bit graphic. We're talking about poop and butt, here, if that bothers you then this site is probably not for you.

I'm 50 years old and I've been playing with my butt since I was 15, and I managed to self fist at 16, take apples, etc... This was before I could buy real sex toys, especially what's available today (Mr Hankey, Bad Dragon,...) and I used objects, bottles, fruits, etc... Then I played with real butt toys while getting fisted every now and then. The better toys have been out for a few years now and I have a few. I actually tossed all the old school butt toys.

I'm now 50 and I can take two male fists and some XL toys. Anal masturbation is what I like and I engage in this activity something like 3 or 4 times a week, with just a simple cleanup.

And guess what? I can take a crap if I don't play and clean up. It'll come out just fine. I've been on business or pleasure trips where I gave my butt a break and, after two weeks, all was fine. It's just probably larger than what regular people poop.

I doubt that the peristalsis is inhibited by the fact that the rectum has been enlarged by toys. It's really just the last portion of the GI tract, which is actually about 30 feet in length, compared to the one foot (at most) of rectum length.

As for thick colon walls.... Ok do you have a scientific research to quote about how butt playing means thicker colon walls? There's a lot of research on risky sexual behavior, including anal play and I never read about thick colon walls. 

The health risks of anal cancer are risks of STDs, cancer (mostly due to infection), prolapse, perforation (which can lead to death), etc...

I doubt HKJ cannot take a poop normally. That she does enema rather than poop normally can be due to the fact that it's a bit more hygienic, especially for extreme butt players.

So who's this guy, again?

Edited November 29, 2019 by AzFrNick

[Rosebutt]

1 hour ago, AzFrNick said:

What are this guy's credentials? Is he a medical doctor? A proctologist?

Ok, so the rest of this response may be a bit graphic. We're talking about poop and butt, here, if that bothers you then this site is probably not for you.

I'm 50 years old and I've been playing with my butt since I was 15, and I managed to self fist at 16, take apples, etc... This was before I could buy real sex toys, especially what's available today (Mr Hankey, Bad Dragon,...) and I used objects, bottles, fruits, etc... Then I played with real butt toys while getting fisted every now and then. The better toys have been out for a few years now and I have a few. I actually tossed all the old school butt toys.

I'm now 50 and I can take two male fists and some XL toys. Anal masturbation is what I like and I engage in this activity something like 3 or 4 times a week, with just a simple cleanup.

And guess what? I can take a crap if I don't play and clean up. It'll come out just fine. I've been on business or pleasure trips where I gave my butt a break and, after two weeks, all was fine. It's just probably larger than what regular people poop.

I doubt that the peristalsis is inhibited by the fact that the rectum has been enlarged by toys. It's really just the last portion of the GI tract, which is actually about 30 feet in length, compared to the one foot (at most) of rectum length.

As for thick colon walls.... Ok do you have a scientific research to quote about how butt playing means thicker colon walls? There's a lot of research on risky sexual behavior, including anal play and I never read about thick colon walls. 

The health risks of anal cancer are risks of STDs, cancer (mostly due to infection), prolapse, perforation (which can lead to death), etc...

I doubt HKJ cannot take a poop normally. That she does enema rather than poop normally can be due to the fact that it's a bit more hygienic, especially for extreme butt players.

So who's this guy, again?

Seriously. Credentials, please? I’m almost 50 and have been fisting, toying and pumping my hole/rectum for DECADES. All is normal. This HKJ “thick rectal wall= cancer” thing sounds made up at best.

[bigtoys420]

I've been playing with my ass for 17 years now. I play with huge toys, and can take an extra large fist. While I can't take a huge double fisting I'm working on it. I will say that I've never had any issues going to the bathroom. If anything it's easier to go as i have greater muscle control now. 

As with anything in life tho, you can overdo it and hurt yourself. If you rip or tear the muscle instead of stretching it i can see that causing a problem. It would have to be something extreme like inserting something sharp or forcing yourself to take a double fisting when you can only take 2 fingers. You can also push yourself with too long and hard of a pnp session. If your are super high and don't feel the pain your body is telling you and you proceed to play for 48 hours almost non stop that too can cause a tear inside you. 

I can see it coming down to how safe you play. If you are sane about it and listen to your body you should never have any issues. I watch siswet play all the time and you can tell she's listening to her body and taking lots of little breaks. She's not forcing herself in any way and she's just enjoying the ride. I'm impressed with her stamina as she will be live for 8 or more hours. 

Lastly, you must always keep in mind how dangerous it can be if you go too far with your play. I will link a story about it if i can find it. In summary 1 guy went to a fisting party and played for a week by the end of it, with the use of Tina and Gina and his top he reached a point where he tore a hole inside him while being fisted. Blood poured out and he was rushed to the hospital. The doc told him that he had a 25% chance of dying during the operation. He lived and the recovery process was no joke. Ill see if I can find it. Its worth a read. 

http://mylittlefistingblog.blogspot.com/2019/10/20-case-fisting-accident-first-hand.html?m=1

 

Edited November 29, 2019 by bigtoys420

[AzFrNick]

The 

9 hours ago, bigtoys420 said:

http://mylittlefistingblog.blogspot.com/2019/10/20-case-fisting-accident-first-hand.html?m=1

The accident described here happened for multiple reasons:

• They were going too far with something that is rather hard and will not bend or adapt in shape (arms and hands) and they were obviously overdoing it
• They were super high (clouded judgement)
• The injured was surprised that they went elbow deep on him the time before and basically could not believe it (hint that something way beyond enjoyable and beyond extreme happened and that he should not have accepted to do extreme deep play like this again)

There have been cases of death, such as:

• The infamous Enumclaw incident (google it)
• Some guy who impaled himself on a broomstick after slipping: there was evidence of him going around his house and sitting in different areas until he bled out instead of calling 911

I also read of one case where the bottom was high on Ketamine while some guy was trying to break a world record on how deep you can go until he ripped the duodenum open. The injured was saved with surgery but large amount of J-Lube spilled over into his abdomen and that wreaked havoc. He apparently suffered extremely for weeks and even opiates could not help relieve the pain.

Read the J-Lube label: the warning about it being toxic to your innards is there for folks who use their product for extreme anal penetration. They know who they also sell their product to. It's not just used for animal husbandry, it's also used by special effects specialist when they make goo or slime (they used it in all the Aliens movie, it's obvious), extreme soap bubble competitions (yes, it's a thing) and people who take toys and hands up their butt. J-Lube is very aware that when they sell to shops in downtown New York or San Francisco, it's not used by cow boys (except maybe that guy from the Village People).

Here is a medical article with several incidents (note: heavy drug use always involved)

https://sti.bmj.com/content/80/6/469

I have been injured once by a top who kept on insisting on going too far. I had to tell him to stop and then I stopped playing with him altogether. No bleeding right away but a few days later I passed blood but nothing extreme. A sexual confident of mine insisted on me going to the hospital but I saw the bleeding happened once and that was it, therefore I did not go.

Why I threw away all my old school toys: they were either made of a material that was too hard or had a shape designed by someone who is not a player or were made of toxic plastic.

Why I only use the expensive higher-end toys: they are made of a softer material and designed by people who are also aware of safety as well as what really works. 

I recommend against large butt plugs, because once inside, they tend to want to stay in and not come out. Some folks ended up in the ER because the base of the plug tore off after they tried to pull on it. I've almost found myself in that situation and managed to pull the largest butt plug I ever took (4.5" in diameter) after a lot of effort. I have since thrown it away. 

I also believe that you should not do drugs beyond a bit of cannabis and poppers. Cannabis can make you really high, though, so be careful. I have seen some videos of a guy continuously inhaling copious amount of weed smoked from a bong while being pegged with a huge and very long dildo. Errr... I don't see the enjoyment. But he did, apparently. Poppers, well, we talked about it. They can cause eye damage, lower your O2 sat, etc... etc... so use in small amount.

So here are my recommendations for extreme anal play (from someone who is not a medical doctor but has been playing for 35 years):

• Don't use hard drugs (although cannabis can almost be considered a hard drug nowadays)
• Don't play with a top who is high (if you take turns, then read the above: he should not be high on anything that clouds his judgement) or doesn't know what he's doing (I swear I am also a great top, if you're in the Phoenix area, PM me)
• Don't go too deep. If you take a fist or too, stay in the lower portion of the rectum. Seriously, the "alien trick" played by HKJ and DGG is just weird (my opinion) and freaks me out. If you still enjoy deep play, use a softer toy like the Slink. 
• Don't use hard or poorly designed toys or anything hard in that matter, beyond maybe the experimenting phase when you discover that butt play can be fun, you're 15 and live at your parents and all you have is a can of spray
• If you get injured, swallow your pride, go to the ER (read AMAs on Reddit, tons of nurses and ER doctors have had to deal with rectal foreign objects and they don't care, you're just a patient to them)

 

Edited November 30, 2019 by AzFrNick

[bigtoys420]

Great response @AzFrNick how true all that info is. All i would like to add is don't be afraid to be in charge when you bottom. Sometimes you have to end it and leave for your own safety. Just last night i was trying a new top and it went south fast. At first, it was great but he quickly turned crazy and stopped listening to me. Like you said hard drugs are bad and i show up with weed and poppers, he takes out Tina. I've been with tops on that before and it was not an issue but this guy was a nut. At one point he started talking nonsense, then went fucking crazy over the tv remote not working. That was when i got up, put my clothes on, packed my things and left as quickly as i could.  You are putting a lot of trust into someone when you let them fist you. If that person is not going to respect that trust, you have to protect yourself and get away from them. Most tops understand this and listen but some dont. There's no easy way to distinguish between the two without trying the top as most people lie. My rule is the person gets one or two mistakes before i end it with them. One if its a serious issue that im like WTF did he really just say or do that. Two if its a something i find strange or uncomfortable. Don't let anyone walk over you. A good top should adore, listen and respect you at all times. If not, find someone else. 

[cuckmouse]

On 11/29/2019 at 7:58 PM, bigtoys420 said:

Great response @AzFrNick how true all that info is. All i would like to add is don't be afraid to be in charge when you bottom. Sometimes you have to end it and leave for your own safety. Just last night i was trying a new top and it went south fast. At first, it was great but he quickly turned crazy and stopped listening to me. Like you said hard drugs are bad and i show up with weed and poppers, he takes out Tina. I've been with tops on that before and it was not an issue but this guy was a nut. At one point he started talking nonsense, then went fucking crazy over the tv remote not working. That was when i got up, put my clothes on, packed my things and left as quickly as i could.  You are putting a lot of trust into someone when you let them fist you. If that person is not going to respect that trust, you have to protect yourself and get away from them. Most tops understand this and listen but some dont. There's no easy way to distinguish between the two without trying the top as most people lie. My rule is the person gets one or two mistakes before i end it with them. One if its a serious issue that im like WTF did he really just say or do that. Two if its a something i find strange or uncomfortable. Don't let anyone walk over you. A good top should adore, listen and respect you at all times. If not, find someone else. 

Jeez. Wish I could find someone like u around here. I'm both top and bottom. Would luv a friend with your level experience and patience. Sigh... Thanks for your insight

[bigtoys420]

@cuckmouseI love to play. I'm a horny hungry bottom. If you want to fly into pbia and get a hotel by the airport I'll come over for a weekend of fisting fun. 

[AzFrNick]

Maybe we should have a get together haha!

 

[arse636]

On 11/30/2019 at 12:07 AM, AzFrNick said:

The 

The accident described here happened for multiple reasons:

• They were going too far with something that is rather hard and will not bend or adapt in shape (arms and hands) and they were obviously overdoing it
• They were super high (clouded judgement)
• The injured was surprised that they went elbow deep on him the time before and basically could not believe it (hint that something way beyond enjoyable and beyond extreme happened and that he should not have accepted to do extreme deep play like this again)

There have been cases of death, such as:

• The infamous Enumclaw incident (google it)
• Some guy who impaled himself on a broomstick after slipping: there was evidence of him going around his house and sitting in different areas until he bled out instead of calling 911

I also read of one case where the bottom was high on Ketamine while some guy was trying to break a world record on how deep you can go until he ripped the duodenum open. The injured was saved with surgery but large amount of J-Lube spilled over into his abdomen and that wreaked havoc. He apparently suffered extremely for weeks and even opiates could not help relieve the pain.

Read the J-Lube label: the warning about it being toxic to your innards is there for folks who use their product for extreme anal penetration. They know who they also sell their product to. It's not just used for animal husbandry, it's also used by special effects specialist when they make goo or slime (they used it in all the Aliens movie, it's obvious), extreme soap bubble competitions (yes, it's a thing) and people who take toys and hands up their butt. J-Lube is very aware that when they sell to shops in downtown New York or San Francisco, it's not used by cow boys (except maybe that guy from the Village People).

Here is a medical article with several incidents (note: heavy drug use always involved)

https://sti.bmj.com/content/80/6/469

I have been injured once by a top who kept on insisting on going too far. I had to tell him to stop and then I stopped playing with him altogether. No bleeding right away but a few days later I passed blood but nothing extreme. A sexual confident of mine insisted on me going to the hospital but I saw the bleeding happened once and that was it, therefore I did not go.

Why I threw away all my old school toys: they were either made of a material that was too hard or had a shape designed by someone who is not a player or were made of toxic plastic.

Why I only use the expensive higher-end toys: they are made of a softer material and designed by people who are also aware of safety as well as what really works. 

I recommend against large butt plugs, because once inside, they tend to want to stay in and not come out. Some folks ended up in the ER because the base of the plug tore off after they tried to pull on it. I've almost found myself in that situation and managed to pull the largest butt plug I ever took (4.5" in diameter) after a lot of effort. I have since thrown it away. 

I also believe that you should not do drugs beyond a bit of cannabis and poppers. Cannabis can make you really high, though, so be careful. I have seen some videos of a guy continuously inhaling copious amount of weed smoked from a bong while being pegged with a huge and very long dildo. Errr... I don't see the enjoyment. But he did, apparently. Poppers, well, we talked about it. They can cause eye damage, lower your O2 sat, etc... etc... so use in small amount.

So here are my recommendations for extreme anal play (from someone who is not a medical doctor but has been playing for 35 years):

• Don't use hard drugs (although cannabis can almost be considered a hard drug nowadays)
• Don't play with a top who is high (if you take turns, then read the above: he should not be high on anything that clouds his judgement) or doesn't know what he's doing (I swear I am also a great top, if you're in the Phoenix area, PM me)
• Don't go too deep. If you take a fist or too, stay in the lower portion of the rectum. Seriously, the "alien trick" played by HKJ and DGG is just weird (my opinion) and freaks me out. If you still enjoy deep play, use a softer toy like the Slink. 
• Don't use hard or poorly designed toys or anything hard in that matter, beyond maybe the experimenting phase when you discover that butt play can be fun, you're 15 and live at your parents and all you have is a can of spray
• If you get injured, swallow your pride, go to the ER (read AMAs on Reddit, tons of nurses and ER doctors have had to deal with rectal foreign objects and they don't care, you're just a patient to them)

 

Really sound advice here, agree with everything said, especially about getting good quality and flexible toys (silicone based).

[Jarred]

I’m 31 and I trained my ass to be capable of taking over 4 inch wide toys. I don’t play a lot with big toys, maybe once a month but allthough there is sometimes over a month time between plays with big toys I don’t have any problem with taking a toy of over 4 inch after that period of time so my ass is pretty much stretched to a point of no return.

with that being said I have no problems with shit falling out or something like that. What I do find is that it is hard to wipe after taking a shit so like HKJ I take enemas whenever I feel I need to shit.

What might help is the fact that I don’t do deep play with big toys but my anus itself is still strong enough to keep my shit in so I’m not sure if deep play like HKJ is more damaging in that way.

[AzFrNick]

BTW I got my abdomen map wrong. The sigmoid colon is what got ripped and where a lot of incidents happened, not the duodenum (again, not a doctor).

I think HKJ also mentioned enemas as a necessity to cause some shock. It's possible she just enjoys to do them as well. Sometimes I clean up in the shower because I know I will be much cleaner this way than if I have a natural movement and then just use TP to wipe. It's not 100% clean at all.

In Arab countries people actually use water to clean the area rather than paper.

[Angiecd]

jjgoodlay is talking shit (pun intended) anal play doesn't prevent you from pooping naturally. 

There are indeed risks AzFrNick mentioned, namely perforation, getting objects stuck (I don't insert wide short objects for this reason - they can and will get stuck past your sigmoid colon if you give them half a chance) as well as additional risks if you do drugs and are not fully aware of what you are doing to your body.

I very much agree with AzFrNick with avoiding 'found' objects, these objects can have unexpectedly sharp bits and can also provide unexpected chemical exposures. 

One additional warning: stay away from glass toys/objects, I was young and stupid once and one broke, and while I didn't go to the emergency room (bleeding did stop reasonably quickly and no perforation, object was not very deep), that was the last time I was going to risk glass... 

Edited December 2, 2019 by Angiecd

[mwm831]

I am 31 and have been playing with my ass since I was 13, gradually progressing to large insertions, fisting, depth play and pumping to train my prolapse. In the last few years of pumping,  I have developed some difficulties in taking a shit. Feeing like I have to go very bad, pushing hard but not passing anything. I can feel my prolapse sort of ball up at my anus, it doesn’t  protrude yet without pumping, but I have to force and strain very hard, and often go multiple times a day. But It’s not going to stop me from training to achieve a prolapse that I can push out whenever I want, so I will keep trashing my hole every day and pumping my guts out whenever I get the chance, 1-2 times a week.

I used to do enemas pretty frequently to keep clean but don’t very much any more. I have heard that frequent enemas can cause issues with going poop, so maybe that is a contributing factor to her condition.

does anyone have a link to that post of hers?

 

Edited December 2, 2019 by mwm831

[Guest johnroseb]

5 hours ago, mwm831 said:

...Feeing like I have to go very bad, pushing hard but not passing anything. I can feel my prolapse sort of ball up at my anus, it doesn’t  protrude yet without pumping, but I have to force and strain very hard, and often go multiple times a day.

That's a bit scary isn't ? Don't you feel any regrets at all?

[mwm831]

19 minutes ago, johnroseb said:

That's a bit scary isn't ? Don't you feel any regrets at all?

It is sometimes, and it does get a little better if I have a short break. But I never have regretted it. If anything, it makes me want to wreck my ass even more so I can push out my prolapse whenever I want

[rusty648]

5 hours ago, mwm831 said:

Feeing like I have to go very bad, pushing hard but not passing anything.

What's your daily fiber intake? If it's close to none you should take supplements before every meal. Here's a relevant reddit comment that everyone here should read https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/8kpjew/what_sexual_must_try_turned_out_to_be_crappy_for/dz9q838/.

[mwm831]

1 hour ago, rusty648 said:

What's your daily fiber intake? If it's close to none you should take supplements before every meal. Here's a relevant reddit comment that everyone here should read https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/8kpjew/what_sexual_must_try_turned_out_to_be_crappy_for/dz9q838/.

It’s not very high. I tried taking supplements but it caused extreme gas and bloat 

[William Barnes]

I can believe HKJ is now in trouble with her toilet activity. And Sis will be soon to her point.
We've seen her in an amount of sessions that would be too heavy for a medium group of gay stunts. The most adapt state of health is the one you've found yourself as young - all the following playing should be carefully adjointed minding downsides of body modification. The most surprising aspect is that HKJ is now producing porn faster than ever, somehow proud of her abilities...

[AzFrNick]

3 hours ago, William Barnes said:

The most surprising aspect is that HKJ is now producing porn faster than ever, somehow proud of her abilities...

There is a reason for that. 

[Analgaper1997]

23 hours ago, AzFrNick said:

There is a reason for that. 

What's that

[secretkink]

On 12/5/2019 at 3:46 AM, AzFrNick said:

There is a reason for that. 

Competition from Siswet? 

[rbp]

Completely agree and it should be very interesting to see how it ends.