In porn, when is extreme too extreme?

[Dats]

I'm glad my topic got people to discuss this subject seriously.
When I initially got that video I was only able to download part 4 before I was shut out of the site. I'm glad the first 3 parts show things from a different perspective.
One way or the other, I still think it's an interesting topic for discussion, so thanks everyone for your views.

[yv_yv]

Thanks a lot for the vid!

okkkk thanks to 216 here is bonus scene 3

Sorry for possibly lame question - who/what is 216?

As for the topic - dont bother, and dont spoil the fun. there is always some gross fucked up shit happening elsewhere.

And because we know virtually nothing about conditions and all the other details of the production of this vid IMO there can't be any reasonable judgement.

You reminded me of the story with Karina Barbie we had in russian internet segment. At first the girl seemed to be so spaced out doing crazy things people thought she is on drugs and theres someone controlling her and like that.
Then it turned out shes really that weird. The end of the story (to my knowledge) Edited May 9, 2008 by yv_yv

[JohnBlack]

What has your being a female got to do with the problem of ever growing exploitation in sex industry. That you happen to be the same sex as most of the people on the receiving end of extreme pornography? Like being a female means you know how it is to be a whore? Well, young lady, there is a whole ocean of a difference between these two. Female is a gender, whore is a mind-bending profession. And mind you, not everyone who works as a whore, wants to be a whore. Just like not everyone becomes a whore because of their innate whorish streak coming into full bloom.

Why stop at the sex industry, people in the USA are being exploited every day. What is the last time you asked a "Walmart" employee how much money he/she earns per hour? I think that paying somebody that little money while working them to death should be illegal. Since corporations dictate the policy in the USA and consumers want everything at the lowest price possible, almost nobody cares. There are more horrible things happening in corporate America then in the hardcore porn industry, why not focus your energy where it really matters?

I have to agree with a comment posted earlier, in case of extreme porn stars, they know what they are getting themselves into. They are getting payed quite a bit of money for what they do, is it enough? I don't know but the Walmart employee is not getting enough either.
In case of Mia, yes she cries but I have not seen anything so horrible to justify her reaction. Getting a hand stuffed up the ass to the wrist is not as painful as she makes it appear, especially not for a trained ass such as hers. There is also no blood, if her ass was pushed to the maximum or over, there would be blood, quite a bit actually.... that I can say from personal experience.

Getting into porn is a choice and if a male or female is too lazy to learn a skill which can be applied in the real world then I do not feel sorry for them if he/she is a consenting participant.

[curiousboy]

Actual score...Pervs 10 : moralists 2

As to espect on this board!

let`s not be false, pals...

hugs to ya all,

cb

[Guest palehorizon]

:Look At This. I work in my own life as a motion picture cameraman.I get up at riduculus hours to shoot whatever the director wants (cause he pays me) Anyone who decides to act is usually under contract If an actor can't perform then Go Home.The Production does not bear that responsibility.Porn carries certain responsibilities to standards and practicses that must abide to the willingness of the actors. I want to see total freedom in porn, but realise that today we want to see extreme shit like fisting ,shit ,beastility just cause it's different. This is not bad but an access to our own unrepressed visuaizlation .Long Live Porn. Porn gets you right with yourself ,basically cause you think if you see it ,it's cool.The outer limits haven't caught up yet but we still practice what we need to underground. "Legal Sex" should always be a personal and responsible matter. I will fuck ,suck assholes as I want and with hope to fist a willing butthole as well give my own.No guilt,No pride .This is why we can speak here.

[curiousboy]

:Look At This. I work in my own life as a motion picture cameraman.I get up at riduculus hours to shoot whatever the director wants (cause he pays me) Anyone who decides to act is usually under contract If an actor can't perform then Go Home.The Production does not bear that responsibility.Porn carries certain responsibilities to standards and practicses that must abide to the willingness of the actors. I want to see total freedom in porn, but realise that today we want to see extreme shit like fisting ,shit ,beastility just cause it's different. This is not bad but an access to our own unrepressed visuaizlation .Long Live Porn. Porn gets you right with yourself ,basically cause you think if you see it ,it's cool.The outer limits haven't caught up yet but we still practice what we need to underground. "Legal Sex" should always be a personal and responsible matter. I will fuck ,suck assholes as I want and with hope to fist a willing butthole as well give my own.No guilt,No pride .This is why we can speak here.

Another comment I totally agree!

Hugs, pal,

cb

[minx]

Frankly I'm not sure about RQUEEN gender and i don't give a damn' about it

Glad it's not just me then.

I can see both sides. I'm still inclined to stick with my original views that they knew what they were getting in to and sometimes just don't feel like it. Even you lot of lovely pervs must have occasionally not felt like it!!

I don't appreciate or accept the comments about whores not having any other skill though, thank you to whoever that was. It is sometimes a lifestyle choice that brings more benefits than conventional work.

I think one of the problems we have when looking at extreme stuff is the fact that the more you watch the more you see and the more it takes to get you off. How many of us started on just anal sex? Does that do anything for you now? No. Same in the industry is my guess, they have to provide for that as always.

If I'm not making any sense it's lack of sleep so be nice. xx

[Dats]

Actually you made a lot of sense. When I started watching porn as a young teen, I got off watching just pictures of naked girls, an occasional hardcore set, anal was a rarity. Then switched to videos, more anal, ass to mouth was extreme to me back then. And now it's just, been there, seen that.

[yv_yv]

Nah I believe theres always some common sense in what we do.

The world of perv. is not that large (seems like mr de Sad covered almost all cases 2 hundred years ago)

and as for me i still can get kicks from good ole pr0n.

[curiousboy]

Glad it's not just me then.

It is sometimes a lifestyle choice that brings more benefits than conventional work.

I think one of the problems we have when looking at extreme stuff is the fact that the more you watch the more you see and the more it takes to get you off. How many of us started on just anal sex? Does that do anything for you now? No. Same in the industry is my guess, they have to provide for that as always.

No it is not just you!

Everything is ok for me, if it`s a choice...

I like extreme stuff too but I like as well just a girl fingring...the kick comes from seing a woman getting horny...no matter how, I have seen some extreme stuff not exciting at all because you could see the actress was not really enjoying it, and I have seen a pair of eyes giving me a hard on just because you could clearly read the desire in them. Did I explain myself? Hope so, sweet mommy!

Good night to you, minxie-minxie, and a warm hug,

cb

[Tangerine]

Purrrrfectly clear Curiousboy, ditto ! (^ ^)

[anllover]

...the kick comes from seing a woman getting horny...no matter how, I have seen some extreme stuff not exciting at all because you could see the actress was not really enjoying it, and I have seen a pair of eyes giving me a hard on just because you could clearly read the desire in them. ...

Very well put and I totally agree. Horny makes me horny, not just going through the motions.

[yv_yv]

Well i watched the first two files, and it seems Mia is still the same mixed up hottie she used to be years ago at fistinglessons. She always used to be _a little bit_ too vocal.

I should say that i can't see why this topic was started at all. And if she stops Steve its not because she cant take it at all, he is just "pushing" too hard sometimes.

With that said i only watched first 2 files, it got too hot for me there, hehe Edited May 11, 2008 by yv_yv

[minx]

Yep there's definitly something intoxicating about the other person being horny, whether it's in the flesh or on the screen.

Have to say I really don't like most of the professional porn, I find a lot of it too fake and "nice" and too posed.

[The Skeletor]

After RQueen made me her slave and allowed me into the dark chambers of her grotto, nothing surpises me anymore as far as porn goes...But sometimes I am surprised, how the hell I ended up there in the first place ?

And now I meet one Tangerine who is fisting his own ass with both hands and still has space for a couple of more...But luckily enough, his heart is big as his arsehole...So, here I am indulging in another genre of perversity...

[gninori]

hi, skeletor let us know what your mistress is doing to you in those darkest cellars (i hope all the best - or worst - possible) via her authorization of course
and i guess tangerine is another one than our beloved mod

[Tangerine]

Errr I don't fist my ass asshole with my 2 or 4 hands sorry but I sure like to do it sometimes even if it's too extreme muahah ! (^ ^) Edited May 18, 2008 by Tangerine