PROLAPSE SITES - end of their days

[xthorgal]

Hello friends

I got some time ago news from few of our friends sites. As You know or not all this payporn sites to work need some one who will manage their payments. There are two major companies what do this with everything safe and good. Now news are that both of them demands from all their sites to remove any prolapse and ass dilate content.
There is not any law forbidden this. This is just "becouse" of this companies. For me is really scary becouse even if this is pay stuff but we some times got it as promo content or just some one post it over web and we see it. If this will be forbidden by this companies that site owners will no more produce this and many sites also will be closed.

What You think friends... is any law what they broke when they order to remove content already aproved by them? How we can help sites what share our fetishes.

xthorgal

[anllover]

companies can choose to do business with who they want and decide how they do business, so NO they have broke no laws. it is pretty disgusting that they would decide they make enough money to start to make DEMANDS of thier customers so hopefully another good company or 2 will spring up to take thier place.

the real shame is our niche is soooo small our actions really wouldnt be big enough to change these bad companies minds any.........

[marlindickwater]

Who are the Authorizing Agencies that are announcing that they will not process any website that has Prolapse videos, and /or photos. Is it Authorize.net? Seems to me big brother is watching even closer and closer in these, our final days of freedom. I recently saw the Google Dirt Bags (the Evil NWO Empires' Henchman) sniffing around this board. If you look at your IP tracking logs, i'm sure they've been here a lot recently. I think 'X', it's just a matter of time before our little corner of the world will cease to exist. They want you, this board, and others like it, out of here. That's why they have come up with all of these so called bad taste, content policies. I tried to get a loan from a banking institution recently for a project on the net. I was denied because the bank didn't approve of the content. Now mind you, this was the same bank that twenty five years ago, fronted me a loan for $1,000,000.00 dollars to start brick and mortar retail stores. What has changed? Or more importantly, who has changed? It truly is all about the control over what we watch, how we watch, and when we watch. And what we do. That's not paranoia my friends, just the facts. we're seeing it more so in the USA than anywhere else. But it's ok for the big Networks to promote these so called reality shows with their questionable, crappy, coma induced content, to the youth of America. It will be coming to you in europe soon. The control and stupifying of the citizens. Our other comments on Max Hardcore's post by mxdil continues, on some of this subject. The coming days will be very interesting...

Max



MD

Of interest to all of you that doubt your being watched. MSN, Google, Yahoo, Ask, etc.

The New World Orders' Henchman

[anllover]

....Seems to me big brother is watching even closer and closer in these, our final days of freedom....

give it a few years and the ones running around like they rule the world will be the chinese... and you think the world is screwed with the USA running around willy nilly

[OnkelWilli]

No good news if true

...maybe a good chance for all of us to buy a camera, some nice dildos and plugs and practice, practice practice.

[xthorgal]

This companies are verotel.com and ccbill.com

[marlindickwater]

This companies are verotel.com and ccbill.com

I found very little data on Verotels policies. You have to be a member. But what is interesting is CCBill's policies and guidlines. It doesn't appear that Prolapses are on thier hit list.

MD
Here they are:


ACCEPTABLE USE POLICIES (AUP)

All clients of CCBill, LLC agree to abide by the following policies. CCBill reserves the right to change and update these policies as it sees necessary.

ACCESS TO CCBILL’S SERVICE IS PROVIDED SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING:

Security

The client is responsible for all use of their account(s) and confidentiality of password(s), including choosing safe passwords and ensuring file protections are set correctly. CCBill will suspend or change access to your CCBill client account(s) immediately upon notification by you that your password has been lost, stolen or otherwise compromised. CCBill is not liable for any usage and or charges prior to CCBill making the necessary account alteration. Electronic mail on this system is as private as CCBill can make it. The client is reminded that no computer network can ever be considered completely safe from intrusion. E-mail may pass through many computer systems, and should not be considered a secure means of communication unless encrypted – and even encrypted information is only as secure as the encryption method utilized.

Non-Transferability of Account

The right to use CCBill’s Internet service is not transferable. Use of CCBill’s accounts is expressly limited to the individual or business whose name appears on the contract

Unacceptable Conduct

The following types of conduct are grounds for immediate suspension of service pending investigation by CCBill and may result in termination of any and all accounts held by the individual, corporation, or website associated with these violations.

You will also be held responsible for the actions of your business relationships (Referrers, Associates, etc.) that impact CCBill. Your cooperation is necessary to insure that those involved in these relationships comply with CCBill’s AUP and those of CCBill’s providers. If they violate any of the following policies, CCBill expects you to make certain that they immediately cease the non-compliant action or that you discontinue your association with them. Continuing violations by your business relationships may result in CCBill at its discretion having to terminate payment to your business relationships or CCBill’s agreement with you.

1. Spamming or Harassment

A. Posting a single article or substantially similar articles to an excessive number of newsgroups (i.e., more than 20) or continued posting of articles which are off-topic according to the newsgroup charter, or which provoke complaints from the regular readers of the newsgroup for being inappropriate).

B. Sending unsolicited mass E-mailings (i.e., to more than 25 users) that provoke complaints from the recipients.

C. Engaging in either (1) or (2) from a provider other than CCBill to draw attention to a website housed within CCBill’s networks or covered by CCBill’s agreement with the client.

D. Engaging in abuse or harassment of other individuals on the Internet after being asked to stop by those individuals and/or by CCBill.

E. Mail bombing, i.e., sending large volumes of unsolicited E-mail to individuals or to individual business accounts.

F. Impersonating another user or otherwise falsifying one's user name in E-mail, Usenet postings, on Internet Relay Chat (IRC), or with any other Internet service. (This does not preclude the use of nicknames in IRC or the use of anonymous retailer services.)


2. Network Unfriendly or Illegal Activity

A. Attempts, whether successful or not, to gain access to any other system or users' private data without express consent of the user.

B. Attempts to interfere with the regular workings of CCBill’s systems or network connections or which adversely affect the ability of other people or systems to use CCBill’s services or the Internet.

C. Any unauthorized attempts by a user to gain access to any account not belonging to that user on this or any other of CCBill’s systems.

D. Any activity, which violates any local, state, U.S., or international law or regulation.

E. Repeated submissions of transactions to CCBill utilizing the same or similar IPs with varying identification information.


3. Violation of CCBill Policy

A. Attempts to offer for sale any item that is tangible in nature including land, or item that must be shipped to the customer via mail or courier.

B. Any attempt to bypass or remove CCBill’s name, logo, or customer support link from the signup page.

C. Failure to fulfill access or services sold to customer in either a trial transaction, regular transaction, or recurring transaction.

D. The posting, display, or advertising of any image using a model or models under the age of 18 years anywhere on the site whether the models are clothed or unclothed.

E. Marketing the site utilizing content including “Kids”, "Lolita", "Pedo", "Peta”, “Peto”, Pre-teen", ”Pedophile”, “Underage”, “Child” or any other words, images, or descriptions that would lead someone to believe that the models are less than 18 years of age is not permitted anywhere on venue including the URL and meta tags.

F. The posting or display of any image or wording depicting or related to extreme violence, incest, snuff, scat or the elimination of any bodily waste on another person, mutilation, or rape anywhere on the site, including the URL and meta tags.

G. The posting or display of any image or wording depicting or related to bestiality anywhere on the site. including the URL and meta tags.

H. The posting or display of any image or wording related to any website running, participating, or advertising acts allowing the subscriber to bet or gamble on an uncertain outcome, or to play a game of chance for stakes.

I. Any attempt to display, sell, or transfer materials that violate or infringe any copyright, trademark, right of publicity, patent, statutory, common law or proprietary rights of others, or contain anything obscene, libelous or threatening.

NOTE: Previously accepted ”Celebrity sites” must either follow an acceptable “news” format, such as “movie review”, e-magazine, or tabloid formats, or you must have and produce upon our request written documentation of your right to use the material on your website. That documentation must be: (1) a license of the rights; (2) consent from the rights holder or their agent; or (3) a written statement from your attorney explaining your claim to have a lawful right, or a legal defense, to display the material. CCBill may at its sole discretion accept or reject your site.

J. Reproduction or transmission of any material in violation of any local, state, U.S., or international law or regulation is prohibited. CCBill makes every attempt in such cases to work with both U.S. and foreign law enforcement agencies to provide information about the providers and purchasers of such material. This includes the posting or display of any image or wording instructing users how to make or perform devices or situations that may violate any state, federal, or international law.

K. Websites must comply with the 18 U.S.C. 2257. Clients must determine their legal responsibility to and method of complying with 18 U.S.C. 2257 where required to do so.

L. Any material uploaded to a CCBill subscription page, (aka “join page”) must be non-sexual in nature, and may only include non-nude individuals. CCBill reserves the right to review and reject any material for any reason.

M. MasterCard specifically prohibits the use of MasterCard’s registered marks including the word “MasterCard” and/or their logo on any site without their written permission.

N. Any attempt to mislead the consumer as to the site’s content or actual initial or recurring pricing of the venue.

O. Failure to place a clear disclosure of trial periods and recurring charges conspicuously on the website.

P. Using any wording relating to credit card use for age verification purposes.

Q. Use of blind links to ccbill.cgi. Users should have a reasonable expectation of getting a signup form when they click the link.

R. No part of the venue may be hosted on a free web host or anywhere, which violates the host’s AUP policy.

S. The members’ area of the venue may not be inaccessible to users for more than a 24-hour period at a time, and not more than one 24-hour period in a 30-day period.

T. If client chooses to utilize the rebilling option for sites containing members’ areas, the members’ area must be updated in a time frame that is equal to or less than the rebilling cycle. For example, if the client bills every thirty days, they must update their members’ area at least every thirty days.

U. CCBill will not process transactions for venues offering shell accounts. CCBill may cancel any accounts whose primary use can be determined as supporting the use of bots such as Eggdrop or any other programs executed on a server through a Telnet or a dial-up account.

V. CCBill will not process for sites advertising or selling the following:

1) buyers clubs or membership clubs;
2) credit counseling or credit repair services;
3) direct marketing or non-internet type subscription merchants;
4) infomercial merchants;
5) multi-level marketing businesses;
6) outbound telemarketers;
7) prepaid phone cards or prepaid phone services;
8) rebate-based businesses;
9) "Up-Sale" merchants;
10) free grants or grant giveaways;
11) cash, money-making opportunities, or making money at home opportunities;
12) "cash for opinions";
13) grant/cash money making schemes;
14) Pharmaceutical Informational Sites or any site that offer information and/or services in relation to the purchasing of Pharmaceutical drugs; or
15) any website that is in violation of the card associations rules.

W. CCBill will only process for escort sites if the site is acting in a directory (ie: phone book) capacity. CCBill will not process for websites selling escort services.

X. Using a sub-account and its signup form for a site that has been approved to process for another URL that is not registered to that sub-account and approved by a card association.

Y. “Posting in” or any other violation of card associations’ rules. Violations of card association rules may result in the immediate termination of all services by CCBill including recurring billing. CCBill will hold all funds until such time as all card association fines, chargebacks, and refunds have been satisfied.

4. CCBill’s Right to Cancel

In the event client’s account is suspended for unacceptable conduct or suspicion of fraud, all rebilling members may be cancelled and all monies held for a period of six months to one year. In addition, CCBill reserves the right, where feasible, to implement technical mechanisms, which prevent the occurrences listed above. Furthermore, CCBill is under no obligation to notify client of its actions.

CCBill may deactivate CCBill accounts or sub accounts that have not processed any transactions within a 90-day period or he CCBill join page is not viewable from the home URL of the venue. Accounts are deactivated in order to minimize the unnecessary operational cost associated with maintaining them in the system.

Compliance with Rules of Other Networks

Any access to other networks connected to CCBill’s Internet service must comply with the rules for that network as well as with CCBill’s rules.

Monitoring/Privacy

CCBill reserves the right without your permission to monitor any and all communications through or with its facilities as well as all Client’s sites for compliance with this AUP and CCBill’s Terms and Conditions. CCBill may also be required to provide access to Client’s websites to representatives of the card associations and/or their acquiring members for monitoring for compliance with their operating rules. Client agrees that CCBill is not considered a secure communications medium for the purposes of the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, and that no expectation of privacy is afforded. It may become necessary for CCBill’s employees to examine system accounting logs and other records to determine if privacy violations or other network unfriendly activities have occurred.

Cooperation with Authorities

CCBill reserves the right to cooperate with law enforcement and other authorities in investigating claims of illegal activity including, but not limited to, illegal transfer or availability of copyrighted material, trademarks, child pornography, postings or E-mail containing threats of violence or other illegal activity.


Confidentiality of Personal Subscriber Information

CCBill will not release any client or customer personal subscriber information, nor client or customer billing information, to any third party except upon presentation of a valid court order, or request to which CCBill is legally required to respond to. Client agrees that CCBill’s judgment as to the validity of any court order, subpoena, or request shall be considered proper and final.


CCBill’s Right to Modify These Acceptable Use Policies

CCBill may modify these Acceptable Use Policies on its website in any way, at any time. It is your responsibility to review the AUP on the website on a regular basis to ensure compliance with the latest version of this AUP. Your use of CCBill’s services after such changes have been posted shall constitute your acceptance of the modifications to these policies.
We hope the AUP is helpful in clarifying the obligations of Internet users, including CCBill and its clients, as responsible members of the Internet. Any complaints about a client's violation of the AUP should be sent to
abuse@ccbill.net.

[prolaptotron]

this would be the get out clause;

"I. Any attempt to display, sell, or transfer materials that violate or infringe any copyright, trademark, right of publicity, patent, statutory, common law or proprietary rights of others, or contain anything obscene, libelous or threatening."

nice and ambiguous...

but - i'm not sure why sticking with those payment companies is necessary. any good hosting company will have it's own secure system for their clients to use;- that's how so many smaller sites can offer 'add to shopping basket' or'subscribe' options. unless there's something in american law that obligates U.S. porn sites to affiliate with these particular agencies. but then if so - simply go with a non american server, you can't firewall a whole country, unless you're china.

[dennio6]

Hi All

Thought I would register in on this topic...

Not only are these guys forbidding rosebutt content but are also censoring any cervical penetrations, urethral penetrations, all period content and this is probably the tip of the iceberg. It is only the content that they said WE had that was in violation.

This is going to cause some big problems in the future for websites when the banks can start deciding what kind of content the people are going to be allowed to view. The people I have dealt with at these banks are barely high school graduates making minimum wage. They had precious little english comprehension skills.

I think they had a robot scanning my site for certain words and phrases and when they were tagged, they were passed to a human to interpret. These idiots decided that since I was ranting in my diary about having to remove webcam shows from my site because they were in the same category as kiddie porn. The bank said that meant that I had kiddie porn on my site and tried to shut me down.

Probably some government robot is going to find THIS post and go after me again. I am telling you like it happened. We have entered an age where simple minded people have massive control over our businesses and lives.

For those of you reading this:
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY KIDDIE PORN OR ILLEGAL CONTENT ON MY WEBSITES. PERIOD. Nor do we condone it. Let's make that crystal clear.

Thanks for letting me have my 2 cents

Denni and Stephan
Dennio Productions

[calebextreme]

Hmm. My billing services are provided by CCBill, so if anal dilitation content is to be blacklisted by them, then I'm out of business. However, I've received no word from either CCBill or my host about any of this.

[curiousboy]

Verotel sucks anyway. I bought a one month membership on "cheetingwife" (Wendy`s) and they booked a 6 months renewal on my account whithout my permission! They even sent me a "thanx for renewing" mail! I am cancelling my membership right now!

Regards, buddies,

cb

[Tangerine]

Grrrrrr ! That crap makes me mad. What can we do now ? (° °)

[alongeasy]

just wait and see. also take it slowly. we wont be die anyway. coz we have lot and lots of friends.

[marlindickwater]

Probably some government robot is going to find THIS post and go after me again. I am telling you like it happened. We have entered an age where simple minded people have massive control over our businesses and lives.

For those of you reading this:
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY KIDDIE PORN OR ILLEGAL CONTENT ON MY WEBSITES. PERIOD. Nor do we condone it. Let's make that crystal clear.

Denni and Stephan
Dennio Productions

A Government, By The People, For The People, Of The People, is a Righteous Government. A Government run by Corporations, Private Interest Groups, and Controlled by the Military is a Dangerous Government"
Just a warning...

[Tangerine]

Bump !

[alongeasy]

this situation is same like us a few years ago. last time we also didnt want to see or hear any sexuall thing/item/story from someone else. but now on we can speak clearly and no one seems to be avoided by the topics.

[bud111]

Hello friends

I got some time ago news from few of our friends sites. As You know or not all this payporn sites to work need some one who will manage their payments. There are two major companies what do this with everything safe and good. Now news are that both of them demands from all their sites to remove any prolapse and ass dilate content.
There is not any law forbidden this. This is just "becouse" of this companies. For me is really scary becouse even if this is pay stuff but we some times got it as promo content or just some one post it over web and we see it. If this will be forbidden by this companies that site owners will no more produce this and many sites also will be closed.

What You think friends... is any law what they broke when they order to remove content already aproved by them? How we can help sites what share our fetishes.

xthorgal

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