DuckyShine

I would totally agree with you guys if we were talking about shoving the occasional finger or small butt plug in there but once you get to our scale of things (2 fists, large toys, bottles, prolapsing etc) it will freak a lot of people out. Worst of all my GF has been between jobs and I've been working home office for the past 2 months so I'm just now reading your replies and I've not had a single chance to play with my ass over the past 2 weeks. At least I found a solution to the hand smell problem - disposable gloves. We have plenty of those around as my gf uses them when dying her hair and cleaning with strong detergents.

I'm writing this because I live in a situation that does not allow me to play with my ass freely. A ) I live in the same house as my parents. B ) I got a girlfriend 4 months ago and she has no idea about my fetish. I know she would not approve of it and might even leave me because she's been adamant about her ass being a one way street and not being interested in anal at all. So from my circumstances I found myself in a bit of a situation. When my GF moved in I had to throw away my lube powder and my neat collection of bottles ( I couldn't use real toys because of my parents living with me). However in the last month I've made more progress destroying my ass than I ever had. I've got the makings of a rosebutt and have doubled the diameter my ass can accomodate. So here's my guide to concealed anal play: 1.Since there is no time for clean ups the best answer to cleaning your dirty pooper is fiber. Psyllium husks to be exact. I drink 3 tablespoons of the stuff per day before every meal. This quite frankly is good advice even for non-anal players that just find themselves having messy shits. I used to eat very little to no fibre and I was wiping and wiping ( thank god I wasn't opposed to fingering my asshole otherwise I would've never been able to clean it). Taking husks 3 times a day results in clean and large bowel movements after which I'm pretty much good to go (there is still some mess but very little). 2.Self-fisting and toying with shampoo bottles during showers is how I've kept my ass destroyed through these last 4 months. I go in the shower and I use spit as lube ( I know not ideal but works for me) and i start placing my fingers in my asshole one by one and stretching my hand inside me like a speculum. This makes my ass stretch really well in a matter of 4-5 minutes and I'm ready to proceed with the bottles. On the rare occasion when my hand gets very shitty/ I feel large chunks in there I just stop as its simply not my day. If the coast is clear I start using large 400-500ml shampoo bottles ( luckily my GF uses cyllindrical shampoos and they are absolutely perfect). I tend to use 2 bottles - 2.5 inches to start with and around 3 inches to finish. 3. My biggest issue so far is that the bathroom has some leftover odours after I'm done. The drops of spit mixed with a little bit of shit can be stubborn to remove even from tiles and even though I rinse the bathroom floor thoroughly sometimes the stench lingers for a few hours (but nobody really bats an eye cuz they think I just took a massive shit). I wash my GF's bottles with their own shampoo contents and they smell like new , however getting my hand to stop smelling like mucus/shit is the hardest part. The smell goes away on its own after a few hours so I just avoid getting my hand close to people's faces in the meantime. So yeah.. my asshole's never been looser and there's a certain thrill associated with knowing that I'm hiding a pretty huge fetish from everyone in the house. Only 2 things left to do is to convince my girlfriend to buy a larger shampoo bottle and find a way to reliably get the smell of ass out of my hand and bathroom. Thank you for listening to my TED talk.

It took me quite a long time to stop freaking out about blood and I realized after extensive research that this is just part of life for a lot of us. I've seen multiple posts (including my own) of people freaking out about anal fissures and asking about how they can heal them and stop bleeding when using large toys/fists. The thing is this is just a normal result of overstretching any tissue - it tears. Granted there are some people with more elastic skin that don't have this problem but if you look at the resting assholes of most hardcore players you'd see a lot of droopy loose skin. Why? Because that's scar tissue resulting from multiple tears. That's simply how the anus grows to those extreme sizes, by breaking down tissue and letting it heal looser in the form of scar tissue. DISCLAIMER: IT'S CRUCIAL TO KNOW WHERE THE BLOOD IS COMING FROM. I'M STRICTLY TALKING ABOUT FISSURE BLOOD. IF YOU'VE PUNCTURED YOUR COLON THAT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AND VERY SERIOUS ISSUE. After that important disclaimer is done let me get to the point - my biggest "growth spurts" have come from pushing the limits of width my anus can take resulting in sometimes multiple small tears and what looks like a lot of blood but it's actually little blood mixed with lube. After I'm done playing a few minutes later the wounds of the micro tears start healing and there's no more blood in sight. If you were to stop and take 2-3 week breaks like I was instructed after every instance of blood you see you'd slow your progress down by years IMO. That's just my 2 cents, please join in and tell me where I'm wrong and what has your experience been like.

This is not going to be the most exciting story in the world but for me it was absolutely thrilling. So let me preface that I'm living with family (it's normal where I live don't judge me please) and I've had to hide my anal addiction forever. Needless to say if it was ever found out I'd be exhiled as gay and my family would be extremely distraught due to the stigma and homophobia in eastern Europe. This challenge has led me to jump all sorts of hoops when playing with my ass - I can not have any toys, I can not have lube in obvious places around the house etc. So my solution was using bottles - vitamin bottles, vape bottles, all kinds of small bottles. It's the perfect disguise as I vape (actually I quit but I still pretend that I do) and nobody ever questions the exorbitant amount of bottles in my drawers. I even have powdered lube that's disguised as a "vape cleaner" (which doesn't actually exist but boomers don't know that). The issue is that I have extremely limited time to play - my work schedule is on US time so I'm working during the night and basically I'm asleep when the house is empty during the day and my family go to work. So usually I have a small period of 2-3 hours to play in the morning right when they go to work. Due to all this and a nasty anal fissure that I've had seemingly all my life I've not been able to progress as much as I wanted to. I was stuck on a bottle with 3.5cm diameter, basically imagine a nice thick dick size - that was what I was capable of. But this morning after browsing a bunch of prolapsed anuses on twitter something possessed me. Thing is I don't have a bottle that's slightly larger than 3.5cm in diameter, my next smallest bottle is a whopping 6.5cm. Needless to say I've never been able to pop it in, it has been tremendously difficult and my fissure has not helped. So.. I got creative. I needed to have maximum lube and maximum leverage to achieve this doubling. And I had the greatest engineering idea of our lifetime - put the bottle on a plunger and use that whole contraption as a seat. Illustration: https://ibb.co/LtCz6Lh I know.. this is getting quite comedic. BUT IT WORKED!!! I pushed my ass hard on the plunger/bottle contraption and the bottle popped in. Once it happened the first time it was no-holds-barred from there. I didn't even need the plunger anymore, the bottle started sliding in and out of my ass. This was the most thrilling anal experience I have ever had, I've never ever felt this full. I even tried pushing as hard as I can while holding the bottle inside me and I swear I could feel my gut slightly sliding down. My next goal is a 0.5L bottle that has a diameter of around 7-7.5cm depending on the bottle, and this will open the door to all sorts of different shapes and grooves as it is a more standard size. I know it's not a standard stretching lifestyle and maybe it's not the hottest story in the world, but there's something about the challenge of getting "cunted out" in plain sight that gets me hard every time. Thoughts?

When I started playing I was just like you - not using lube, mostly using my spit. In the long term it just does not work. You'll get sore easier and you won't be able to go up in size nearly as quickly unless you have insane pain tolerance and even then you're bound to tear your ass up. I've got a fissure that bleeds and stings slightly every time I play and I promise you it's not a great feeling especially if you wanna play with a partner that gets freaked out by blood. Do yourself a favor and buy some lube, if you're living with people that don't know about your kink there's powdered lube (plenty of brands) that dissolves in water and you can always peel off the label from the lube so people don't know what it is. I do get sore after playing especially when I'm pushing the envelope hard and going at my limit. But unfortunately most of the time that's the only way to go up in size. Just like you get sore when you're lifting at your limit at the gym. One thing I don't think is a good idea is using numbing creams. There have been threads on here about all sorts of stuff that numbs your asshole but I think that's both dangerous in a chemical sense - in the long term those numbing creams can damage the nerve endings and also dangerous in the physical sense. If you mute your body's signals you won't know when to stop.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1642603107895975936 Here's an example I was watching today. Love me a ruined hole and a bottom that can use his ass muscles to push and pull the top's dick. edit: I didn't read the parent comment in the thread. It was meant to be "except anal". My horny ass can't read sometimes.

It's not a specific "genre" more of a specific type of fucking. Tops fucking bottoms with loose holes that keep pushing during the entire fuck and their prolapse starts showing just outside their hole and cushions the dick. Back in the day my favorite was women with meaty pussies / pumped pussies getting fucked by massive dicks. I guess you could say I have a fetish for lips that grip. Even when I'm fucking myself I love to keep pushing while the toy is in and feel my loose lips with my fingers enveloping the toy.

For me the best anal experiences have come when I've not ejaculated in days. I remember my most intense orgasm was when I hadn't jerked off for almost 2 weeks. Just putting lube on my ass made me pre-cum like crazy and then with just a few strokes I came a bucket full in seconds. It's incredibly difficult for me not to touch my penis but I think that going anal-only and having orgasms is possible as long as you resist the urge for long enough. Let's not forget people have orgasms in their sleep without even touching themselves so intense anal stimulation after not ejaculating for a few weeks/ month seems like a surified way to have an orgasm.

Oh boy I've seen so many doctors talk about prolapse in this way, prime offender being Dr Drew. He's always talking about how prolapsing cuts blood circulation and is "deadly". What he doesn't take into account is that he's referring to the medical version of prolapsing where the patient's anus is not stretched like ours are and it pinches the rectum which creates blood circulation stoppage and necrosis. In our case the biggest possible side effects are potential drying up of the gut if you keep your prolapse hanging for hours at a time (which I don't think anyone does) and ofcourse incontinence if you've overstretched your anus to the point of no return. The latter is actually desired by some in the fisting community but also can be avoided with proper training. All other types of injuries are usually due to malpractice - toys too big, too sharp, too hard + numbing drugs and not enough lube.

Yes, obviously there is a price tag. It's not a monetairy issue, it's more of a finding the proper venue issue. Guess some networking is necessairy to find out tho, that's a good point.

I was looking for a more specificity like a location. The country of France is a bit general I doubt there'd someone waiting to fist my ass as I cross the border lol.

Okay this is a bit far fetched and let's just say I'm from a country that's not very open towards the whole gay/fisting/prolapse thing, not that the latter's very well accepted even in open-minded countries. But here's what's been one of my ultimate fantasies - "A prolapse making vacation". Basically going to a place for a month where I'm just a fist slave and my ass gets used in all sorts of ways - fisting,giant toys,permanent plugs, pumping,enemas really everything and anything inbetween. Are there actual places that offer these kinds of "services" in Europe, specifically for a long period like 2 weeks, a month or even more? Does anyone here have experience with that sort of thing?

What kind of gel? Curious to try it too just to see what the sensations will be. I'm not exactly sure what oil the guy's using in the original twitter video I posted but it really seems to get a reaction out of his sub.

I just started looking into the Chinese gay BDSM scene and it's crazy (and that's just on twitter). I have no idea what it's like on their own websites. These folks don't play around, and I'm kinda curious to see how deep this crazy video rabbithole goes (which I will most likely regret)

So I was browsing the fisting/ anal twitter sphere and I stumbled on a couple of videos from this Chinese guy (who apparently offers gay BDSM sessions as far as I understand). In the first video he uses freezing spray that athletes use on his subject's hole and what I think is some kind of pepper essential oil. In the second video he uses that oil again as well as a swatter with which he slaps his subject while making him push. (warning both videos have some blood in them, nothing extreme but still). I've never been into BDSM and torture but those videos turned me on immensely. I don't know if I'd ever go that extreme in real life cuz just the act of soaping my asshole got me fked up for hours (lol) so using chilli essential oils or freaking freezing spray might be WAAAY above my tolerance. Apologies if something about this post breaks a rule. Just wanted to explore the topic with my fellow "freaks" lol.

Was reading this thread before going to the shower a few minutes ago and decided to give it a shot. I only had some mint flagranced soap which made the experience even more intense. It was a brand new bar pretty much and I shoved it in there a couple times and "spat" it out. However my instinct wasn't to start pushing but quite the opposite. My ass completely closed up and got as tight as a drum and it was probably due to the fact that I had some shit in my rectum and my body didn't want me to involontairily evacuate. After my shower it stung for a few minutes and by the time I dried myself and got dressed I had an urge to poo so I went and it was smooth and immidiate probably because of the soap lubrication inside. Then the intense feelings subsided and now 30 min later I'm pretty much back to normal. I don't know how intense it would've been if I kept the soap in there for a few minutes or if I "rubbed" it in like Clara said she did but I don't know if I want to find out. At least it's a quick way to do an "enema" without doing an enema.

Exactly this. I bleed every time if I take a week+ break and it stops when I start playing daily. In bro science terms my explanation is that when your hole loosens the fissure stops becoming the weakest point just due to the overall increased plasticity and blood flow to your hole. I really should become a doctor with these scientific explanations I'm giving lol. But in seriousness I do have a fissure as well and I just deal with the small amount of blood and the slight stinging feeling. In general they're not dangerous. Many people who've never played with their ass have them and nobody's died from one at least from my research. One potential hazard is that if by chance you go too hard and actually cause damage other than the fissure you might not know it as you'd have gotten used to blood. For me I know it's the fissure cuz the bleeding stops after it opens initially and when I reapply lube 1-2 times there's no blood in it.

Feels like every other week I see a post titled "If I can play with my ass only X times a month would I still make progress" . Well in my experience as an often irregular player the answer is - YES, if you are patient. When I first started playing with my ass I wanted to rush things and tried to shove the largest possible objects in my ass. When something wouldn't go in (vegetable,bottle, household appliences and toys) I'd push harder, sit on it and just apply pressure and things would never work out well. I used to get bleeding often and had to quit out of fear of hurting my ass for weeks after a "hard" session. A few weeks back I was struck with an epiphany - what if I tried the opposite of what I've been doing. So here are the basic steps to dramatically increase the size of toys/objects you can fit in your juicy hole: 1. Take a lot of time out of your day - 2-4 hours imo is ideal and if you're really in the mood you can go for 6-8 hours. 2. Be in a comfortable environment - if I'm in the bathroom I often find that it can get chilly and you don't want that. Put a heater on in the bathroom before playing so you can warm it up. Taking a hot shower doesn't work cuz it actually makes your body cool down rapidly and you'll get cold very soon after you're done. 3. Clean yourself out properly. Take a shit and push hard on the toilet, then do a small enema if you're not planning to play deep and a large enema (multiple enemas probably) if you're a depth connoisseur. This is all about comfort, you want to take your time with it as well, rushing enemas is a horrible decision that usually makes things messy or irritates your bowels. 4. Use lots of proper lube - some people like the water based powdered lubes, other people prefer the hotkinkyjo hand lotion method, whatever you like is fine. Just be in a room where you're not afraid to make a mess and use as much lube as you can. + I find it hot to feel the lube drip out of my ass and my guess is so would you. 5. Instead of trying to force yourself on a toy go slow from the beginning of the session. Usually you're going to start with a small toy and for me the start was always difficult as I'd get pain from trying to go to quickly. Instead, just rest your extremely lubed toy/ object on your extremely lubed ass and apply slight pressure until your ass starts swallowing it in. If you start to feel pain pull back, the goal is to keep your ass as relaxed as possible and not make it shrivel up. 6. Let's say you have 3 different sizes of toys for example - 1st toy being warmup, 2nd toy being your regular size and 3rd toy being that one toy that you just can't get in you need to spend a large amount of time on the first 2 toys and just make your ass as loose as possible before proceeding to the challenging toy. 7. A lot of people rush to cum and that ruins their experience. For me personally once I cum, it's very hard to keep playing. This is a more individually based advice but for me personally, I've decided not to cum until the very end of my session. It keeps me amped up more and more and it keeps me wanting to play as well as removing the rush to shove toys in as I'm not planning to cum until the very end anyways. 8. So you've met your nemesis - that one toy/object that you've always wanted to conquer but never could. Worry not, there is a way. Just. Go. Slow. Don't try to shove it in, don't try to force anything. Just rest it on your anus and slowly push. If it's a cone shaped object like a buttplug it makes it easier as you can stop exactly at the place you're starting to feel uncomfortable. Stop at that very place and rest. Don't eject the toy, just stay on it and that way you're teaching your hole that that is it's new normal size. Stay on it for 2-3-5 hell even 10 minutes. Then slowly push again. I'm almost certain that you'd be able to get another 0.5 or even 1 inch deeper and slightly wider. Rest again for 2-3-5-10 minutes. That's why having time on your hands is important. By the time you're done all the sudden the entire toy's going to be in your ass and if not, you'd just need 2-3 sessions and you'll be there. Once your hole gets used to the entire toy - then go hard. The most satisfying feeling for me is being able to stride a toy hard that I've previously barely been able to even fit in my ass. I hope you find this post helpful, I got pretty horny while writing it so it might've become somewhat mishmashed by the end.

Let me give you my "secret recipe" to successfully going all in on your anal journey while living with family: 1. How to conceal lube --> Told my family I was vaping and I was making a vaping liquid. If you buy powdered lube all you need is some plastic bottles to dilute it in and you're set. You can remove the lube label and tell them it's your "vaping liquid". I know it's tempting to save money and hastle by not buying lube but proper lubrication has been a life changer for me and has made my hole twice as big in just a year. 2. How to clean up --> remove shower head and insert shower hose with low/medium pressure and slightly warm water. I test the water on my testies or my belly (sensitive areas) and if it's not too hot for them it's generally not too hot for inside you. 3. Where and how to play --> Bathroom is ideal cuz water based lube can make a mess and it's easiest to clean when it's on tiles in the bathroom. After I've finished a play session I just use a wet mop to wipe the floor in combination with water and it's all ready to go. 4. Toys? --> Plastic bottles are some of my favorites. A lot of people don't like hard toys but I enjoy them cuz they get me more stretched out and instead of compressing inside me they actually give me a bigger stretch. Smaller hard toy does the same job as much bigger soft toy. I've also used a big candle although I'd be careful cuz some candles can desintegrate when submerged in water and if it's your family's candle it can all the sudden deform or disappear (lol) . If you can self fist which I can that's also a great idea but make sure to trim your fingernails perfectly with no sharp edges. Some kitchen appliances like a wooden garlic press can work but make sure to clean them well after. Vegetables are an obvious one as stated above but make sure they're hard ones. 5. What to avoid --> Glass objects. Avoid at all costs. Yes, glass toys do exist but they're made with extremely thick and rugged glass compared to normal household items ( a jar, a glass etc). You DO NOT want to have a one man one jar type of accident. Metal objects if you don't know the type of metal they're made of or if they have any rust on them. Some metals are toxic to humans. Don't go sticking rusted pipes into your anus (DUH). Anything with sharp edges. Example for me would be a coke or a fanta bottle. It looks innocent at first but the plastic where the cap is can be quite sharp and jagged which makes for an easy way to tear your anus lining and get a fissure ( have experienced it first hand). Thankfully my fissure doesn't hurt and I don't care about a bit of blood but for a lot of people seeing just a drop of blood would be the end of their session. Any objects that are made of or might have contained toxic substances. Bottles of heavy duty cleaning products / bleach or high % medical grade alcohol I usually avoid because even if you think you've washed them thoroughly you don't know if there's residue on the bottles and you don't want to find out the hard way. And lastly avoid inserting objects that you have no backup plan on how to retrieve. Any spherical objects like small balls, apples, lemons, wooden eggs etc. I once had a plastic watermelon keychain stuck in my ass for 8 hours. That was the longest involuntary fisting session of my life. Anything that has no base or retreival method is a hard no unless you want an unplanned session with your doctor and an uncomfortable conversation with your family. As a wise man once said - if there's a will there's a way. Just make sure you're safe and you'll find pleasure in the most surprising objects around your house.

This sounds way worse than enemas to be frank lol

That is exactly my point. I take a poop and simply use some toys after to get things out and wash up. I think that you can't be as deep into anal play as we are and not expect to get your hands dirty. If I were to take an enema every time I feel like playing I'd be spending 4 hours a days shitting water out my ass.

Hey guys, I've been playing with myself a lot lately and I've come to a somewhat controversial realization. I hate douching every day. For me it sucks for a multitude of reasons : 1. It can be irritating to my guts sometimes and can completely make me lose desire to play. 2. It can open "the gates of hell" and then I'm stuck taking multiple enemas until it's all cleaned out. 3. This is a bit situational but especially in the winter it's cold in my bathroom and I'm using my shower to douche. So I want to ask you guys as veterans (and especially the people who play daily) are you douching every single day or are you okay with finding a bit of brown on your toys? I've found that if I eat well it all comes out in one solid poop and then I'm pretty much ready to go. On a side note , eating red meat seems to really mess me up. Just courious about how you deal with the discomfort of constantly douching as well as the potential gut biom issues that can arrise. Sorry if this isn't the most appealing of threads but I always come back to this forum because it's the only place where "experts" in the "field" I'm interested in exist

I was gone for awhile and completely forgot about this thread. Well happened to me this morning. I had plugged my ass with a relatively hard toy through the night (okay it was a bottle ya got me) and this morning I wanted to play some more so I went to strain on the toilet just in case there's something in there that needed evacuating. There wasn't but I felt my ass was moist so I wiped it down and there was some blood again. Before tonight's small play session I'd taken a break for a while AGAIN and today I simply incerted a small vape juice bottle (don't worry it's thoroughly cleaned and empty) that has the diameter of a thick dick and is like 4' long. At this point I think that small amounts of bleeding are just par for the course if I want to play and I think that there's always going to be a crack that reopens when I play. Some people say it's completely fine and have played for years with minor bleeding occuring while people on the more cautious side say it's a complete no-go. Honestly I'll risk it for now with small-ish objects and see how my ass reacts. If it becomes worse I'll probably have to stop once and for all cuz taking a 2 week break after each session is not my jam.

Well, yes obviously there is the relubing that needs to take place often. I've read some good blogs on the subject such as this one . As long as I have the freedom and privacy I'll figure it out trust me ;)

Hello everyone. Hope you're all doing well through these rough times. I wanted to share my dream that has been so far fetched up until this point but things have started looking up. First the dream - ever since 3-4 years ago I've wanted to become permanently plugged for basically the rest of my life. My plan has always been to start with a small plug and work my way up to the absolute maximum possible and simply never take it out (well except for bodily needs and whatnot). However there have been huge gigantic enormous bumps in the road: First I'm living with my parents which basically eliminated all possibilities of me getting any toys whatsoever. I've always snuck around the issue by using house hold items such as bottles, wooden spoons,screwdrivers (obviously the handle way in) etc, you guys know the drill. Enemas have been a pain as well as I've resorted to unscrewing the showerhead and plugging the hose directly in me which while not the worst thing in the world messed up the threading on the shower head and left my parents wondering how it happened. Thankfully my dad attributed it to poor quality shower head but still that was one close call. I even bought some powdered lube for convinience because its in a small box and it's difficult to find. Thankfully they do give me some privacy and don't search through my stuff. Second problem is that I have bounced between jobs and I never knew what my job would be and being in offices and all made me scared of the thought of being permanently plugged because I didn't want a situation where a plug slips out or I get some leakage through my pants and get noticed by coworkers especially in jobs that I've had to lift things and bend over. And lastly it's simply the cost of it all. Good quality plugs are expensive like those topped toys plugs that I want to get. If I want to achieve my goal I'd have to start small since the biggest thing I've ever fit in my hole has been a 4cm (1.75inch) in diameter plastic bottle. This means that I'd have to buy at least 4-6 plugs and work up to them one by one until I get to my "bone" limit. But as I said things are on the come up. With this terrible pandemic a lot of work from home jobs have emerged and I'm on the cusp of getting one. Expenses have been lower than ever for me so I'd probably be able to save up to at least start this journey. My parents are still in the picture but at least for the first plug that won't be an issue since..well it would never leave my body. Sorry for the technical aspects and if the post bored you guys but that's been my biggest sexual goal/dream for a long time and I'm just hopeful for the future. Seeing some guys on twitter post about how they're plugged 24/7 and seeing their beautiful constantly opened wrinkled holes makes me cum almost instantly. That's it. That's my TED talk. Feel free to give your input.