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100%! what I always say, whenever I post about this kind of thing, is that risk is a personal decision and I would never recommend for anybody to do this just because I said to. that would be insane. I wouldn't tell someone to grow a prolapse either, for that matter. but if someone wants to do something, I also think we have a responsibility to share both positive and negative experiences that we've all had.

it sorta depends a lot on your anatomy and everyone is different in this regard... some people can't do it at all. others can get in there deep into the forearm, almost to the elbow. but those people are paid professionals. for mere mortals like me it was about persistence and working out the best angles where I could get my wrist set and basically insert my fist like a plug. 2.5" won't be enough for a full fist, but it's three fingers, maybe four so my advice would be get in there and stretch as you go. you might find you're fisting yourself pretty soon!

to be honest, I don't really want to 'recommend' that anyone does this. it's quite risky. the ball I used was about 3" and the widest point of the hollow plug was about 2.5" also. the hollow plug is a MEO 24/7 Ass Grommet. I prefer this to the ball because it's got a flared base that I can hold onto and it's hollow so I can get my fingers inside it. but inserting an entire plug or a ball is quite risky. for me, I reasoned that it was a risk I was willing to take.

at the end of the day, I think all we can do is speak from our own experience. I still feel like you're being a bit defeatist, but at the same time there are plenty of examples where some kind of predisposition has basically given someone a prolapse (Riley I think got theirs at 14, Solag had some kind of medical condition I think... etc). but I think there are definitely some who have made it happen in spite of what their body wanted to do. mine took me eight years from deciding that I wanted it. there is no way I would have even a tiny rosebutt if I hadn't made it happen for myself. in the sports analogy, try to imagine yourself as the amateur who's qualified for the open or something... you've got nothing to lose but total control of your asshole!

I think if you're self-fisting, the time to push is basically against the fist. what you'll find is that you can manipulate the internal space with your hand, and what I used to do for extra depth when self-fisting is use a ball or hollow plug that fits all the way inside, and then move that around with my hand behind it. just be careful. that's not exactly recommended play. but yeah, once you've got your fist in, use your internal muscles to push the fist out, and then push back with the fist, etc. you should be looking to feel the push coming from deep inside. this definitely helped me to develop my rose and, ultimately, my small but growing prolapse.

I think you're overthinking this, dude. based on what mine feels like, the whole 'thing' moves down. and the more it moves down, the more it comes out. also, I wouldn't worry too much about what's 'achievable'... or, for that matter, what it looks like, at least at first. I spent way too much time looking at how small my rose looked when it was pushed out, that I gave up at times on doing the sort of stuff that I now know leads to a full prolapse. instead I focused on how it felt to relax and push down from as deep inside as I could. if you do the right thing consistently you'll get the big prolapse, just stop worrying and let it happen!

why not?

something to bear in mind is the difference between straining and pushing. my advice would be to push. straining I think is what leads some people to develop hemorrhoids (thanks, spellcheck!) and mainly engorges the anal 'lips'. I had a small hemorrhoid I think at one point and I didn't enjoy it. similar to getting tears from using toys that are too large while stretching the anus, even a mild case of hemorrhoids will set your progress back while it heals. it took me pretty much eight years from deciding that I wanted a prolapse to actually having one so I can say with some certainty that I was not in any way predisposed to prolapse. once I stopped straining and started pushing, my disappointing rosebutt started to turn into a full prolapse. something else that I would say, by way of advice to people who are struggling is to ignore any information that speaks in the terms of the medical community. every aspect of that vast literature deals with something different to what we're trying to do, because it starts from the assumption that you are predisposed to develop a prolapse. therefore you go through the stages (internal, full thickness, mucosal, etc) not because you want to, but because that is the progress of your medical condition. the reason a medical prolapse is potentially very serious is that it can become stuck outside. at this point the anal sphincter, which has not been deliberately stretched to the size that can accommodate a human fist, contracts with such force that it cuts of the blood supply to the prolapsed tissue. this is essentially the same principle as the elastrator bands that are used in animal castration and fetish play. the 'internal prolapse' that a lot of people talk about is also a result of an unstretched asshole. this is when the rectum starts to slip down but can't escape the tight asshole. this causes pain, incontinence, and other bad things, and once the rectum finally slips out of the anus, it's just more pain and embarrassment... medical prolapse sounds horrible. if that was all the information I looked at, I would never have intentionally done this to myself. what we experience as the 'internal prolapse' is the rosebutt phase. once you hit this stage, where your rectum is starting to get mobile, this is when you start pushing. and then it's just about growing it down and out. and it doesn't, or at least it shouldn't, hurt. I've never felt pain since I started pushing it out. my anal lips are still kinda big, but they haven't grown anywhere near as much as my prolapse, which is what I wanted. learning how to relax the various internal bits and pieces is also very important. I've basically taught myself how to control a bunch of parts inside (I have no idea what any of them are called and I don't really care) through three phases: relaxation, pushing, and pulling back in. the most intense feelings I've had are when I've been able to get to the pulling back in part and it just keeps growing while I 'try' to pull it back in. the reason this post is so long is that I've been slowly rolling my prolapse around (or at least that the best way I can describe it) knowing that as soon as I'm done, I'm going to go prolapse some more...

hmm. that's interesting because I'd say that mine is kinda the opposite. I think a lot depends on your individual anatomy and how your stretching journey led you to a prolapse. we're all playing with the same basic set of parts, but doing different things with them. I'd try not to lose hope though. perhaps 'a lot of people' get to a certain stage and maybe either lose hope and kinda give up, or simply realise that a truly enormous prolapse is not something they really want. the technique that I've found helpful lately with mine is based on a method that I used ages ago for anal stretching. I read somewhere that to be able to take a larger diameter insertion, rather than trying to force a larger toy in which could (and in my case did) result in tearing and bleeding and general unpleasantness, you take the toy that you can insert comfortably and once it's inserted you clench your anal spincter around it with as much force as you can apply for as long as you can comfortably apply it and then relax. then repeat the cycle a few times. what I've been doing with my prolapse is, rather than pushing it out as hard as I can, I let it come out to where it naturally falls out to and then use the internal force to retract it, but only so much that I'm holding it where it is. then when I relax, it comes out a little more every time. it's not much, but at this point it's basically a case of when not if I'll get the substantial prolapse that I've been aiming for and this way I feel like I'm getting progress every time I play. and I think, generally, that's the key thing. if you already have a 'half prolapse' then you're well on your way and if you keep up a regular routine of play where you're getting incremental growth you'll break through that barrier eventually. I think a lot of what gets said in this and other forums tends to focus on the physical side but for me the mental side is just as important. the feeling of my prolapse extending out at the same time as I'm pulling it in is so much more pleasurable than when I've simply been pushing it out. and then, when I do push it out, even if it hasn't grown that much, the feeling is even more intense.

ok, so I'm NOT talking about stopping completely (obvs!) I'm talking about two things: how to call time on a play session how to 'take a break' I'm at the stage where my rosebutt is turning into a full prolapse and it is very exciting and I'm enjoying this a lot (maybe too much...) the last few times I've had a good time playing with my emerging prolapse I've had a hard time closing out the session. back when it was just a budding rosebutt, I found that after a while it would naturally just kinda want to go back inside and if I tried to play through this phase it didn't really feel great so I always stopped. I'm a firm believer in 'listen to your body', it's what I've always said when others have asked for advice and I follow it myself. but now, this natural denoument isn't happening. the longer I play the more I want to play more. I'm listening to my body and my body, specifically my prolapse, is saying 'go, go, go!' even now, and it's been a good hour since I packed myself away and ended the last play session, I've got a feeling inside that I've never really felt before. it's like it's actively begging me to let it out. and prolapsing being the headfuck that it is, I don't really know how much I'm kinda making that happen and how much of it is something that's happening 'naturally' and it's the fact that it's turning me on so much that is making me think that it's voluntary. the best way I can describe it is like a quivering inside, like I stuffed a vibrating ball up inside and it's flickering on and off. moreover, pretty much everyone anywhere says that you need to take breaks. that taking breaks 'locks in your progress' etc... right now I'm playing every day. several times a day. usually at least an hour at a time. as I say, I'm trying to listen to my body but my body just wants me to push harder and it feels like my ass wants to explode into a huge prolapse (at the moment it is small... I've looked in the mirror and it's barely sticking out an inch) how do I take a break from this? I'm not sure I have the willpower! I'm looking for genuine advice here. it's tough to write about this while literally currently experiencing the very sensations that I'm trying to describe. what are the consequences of not stopping? of not taking breaks? what happens if I actually listen to my body and let this thing rip like it wants me to? p.s. any tips on using a smartphone camera to get good pics? I think it might help if you folks could see what I'm talking about... I've never managed to get a good photo or video of any of my anal activities.

wow... helpful. I know what a colostomy bag is, what I wanted to know (from the person I was replying to) was what that has to do with a prolapse fetish.

it depends on what you mean by 'see a doctor'... here, your first port of call would be your GP (general practitioner) which I guess you'd probably know as your 'family doctor'. since our NHS is in the process of being destroyed through piecemeal privatisation, it is no longer possible to make a GP appointment at the surgery (your local clinic), this must be done over the ohone which will mean interacting with an outsourced element of our health service. the person you speak to, assuming it's a person and not an automated dailng service, will not be a qualified health professional. they simply work in a call centre and their call centre will be handling calls from a large geographical area. you will need to provide them with a reason for the appointment that you wish to make, but if you are wary of disclosing personal medical information to someone outside of the medical professional (as well you should be given they have no structure for ensuring confidentiality etc) you may not be given an appointment. if your request for an appointment is granted, and you've given them a valid reason for needing it, it may be that your request falls within one of the many categories of primary care that is no longer handled by traditional GPs due to the now pervasive process of tendering, so you might end up at a privately run clinic where you will see a doctor, or registered nurse, to whom you will be a stranger. if you make repeat visits, it's highly unlikely you will ever see the same doctor again, so any attempt to clutivate a relaationship similar to what one used to have with a traditional GP is impossible. they're also known to be shody record keepers so it's likely you'll have to share all of your pertinent information and basically start from scratch every time you visit the clinic. if you want to speak with a specialist, for example a proctologist, you would require a referral from your GP, that is your actual GP, who you might not have been able to see. GPs are loath to provide referrals and will definitely not provide one simply becasue you asked nicely. the waiting lists here are currently at an all time high. recently I read that there are more than six million people currently waiting for treatment, not including those waiting for elective proceedures. so yes, it really is that hard to see a doctor. can you explain, briefly, how this would happen?

you clearly have no idea how difficult it is in the UK right now to make an appointment with a GP to ask them general questions about your personal fetish... let alone to call a proctologist! you would need to be referred to a proctologist and I imagine that's nigh on impossible unless you are in need of emergency care. moreover, there is a fundamental problem with this entire thread, which is that a medical prolapse and a fetish prolapse are completely different things. a fetish prolapse is essentially a body modification. we're altering a specific part of our bodies in order that they appear, and function, differently to how they ordinarily would. the medical profession no doubt views the fetish prolapse much in the way they would a split tongue or stretched earlobe, or even a tattoo for that matter. show a doctor a split tongue and he'll no doubt talk you through the process of putting it back together. show them a stretched earlobe and they'll show you how to 'correct' it. show them a tattoo and they'll tell you how to remove it. it's not their job to advise you on how to get a split tongue or to stretch your earlobe, and they won't give you a tattoo either. likewise, a doctor (if you could get in to see one) could not tell you how to 'safely' prolapse your rectum. now, further to this, when you consider the 'risks' of a prolapsed rectum, what are they? the biggest is that it becomes trapped outside the body. strangulated, deprived of blood flow, the tissue will die (necrosis). now ask yourself: how does this happen? is it even biologically possible for this to happen to someone with a fetish prolapse? no, it is not. this is because, in literally every instance I have ever seen, read about, and experienced myself, the process of anal exploration that ends with a prolapsed rectum began with insertion. you insert something, a finger, an object of some kind, into your asshole. you enjoy the way this feels and over time this leads to the second phase which is stretching. you insert ever larger objects, more fingers, eventually a fist or even multiple fists into your asshole. now, let's revisit the unfortunate case of the strangulated prolapse. what is it that is strangling the very life out of this poor rectum? yep, it's the anus, the anal sphincter. specifically, it's an anal sphincter that has never been stretched. so when the prolapse pops out, the anus clamps back around it with enough force to not only make it so that the prolapse cannot be pushed back in, it cuts off the blood supply in much the same way as a elastrator cuts off the blood supply to the testicles for example. now, can an anal sphincter that has been stretched to the point that it can comfortably accommodate an adult male fist clamp shut with sufficient force to cut off the blood supply to the prolapse that is protruding out of it? NO. so, what are the risks of a fetish prolapse? whatever you do, don't bother asking a doctor.

links? it would be useful to know who you're talking about. but also, just because in a video someone pushes it back in, doesn't mean that they have to. it could be for effect, or because it feels good. my rose is still pretty small but popping it back in with a hand feels different to drawing it back in with muscle control. so if a person had lost control of their prolapse - and I'd reference here someone like Hunger_FF who has possibly the biggest prolapse on the planet and retains full control of it - they would not be able to stop. the point of no return, I'm pretty sure I've already passed it, you know once you start moving a section of your colon down and out of your asshole, there's no stopping or going back. that's when you make the trip to the proctologist's office and get booked in for some surgery. or you live with it... it takes a long time to grow and develop a prolapse. it is a slow process. if you enjoy it and you've enjoyed the journey, there's no way you'd suddenly freak out at that point. plus, even a small rose feels really good (to me at least...) and it's only getting better as it grows. I think it's a bargain that you make with yourself. it's obviously not a 'healthy choice; but what the fuck is that anyway? if it feels good, do it. but as I said, once you get to that stage there's no quitting.

I remember when I first encountered this guide, like several years ago, possibly even on this very site... the soap thing I kind of ignored. later, I remembered having read it and gave it a try and I don't know, I kinda enjoyed it. what I will say though is that 'bar of soap' is pretty fucking vague. the soap we use in our house is a mild soap that is not perfumed and doesn't irritate the skin. it's not painful at all for me to put it up there and hold it in for a bit. the result is a soapy butthole that's mildly irritated but by no means sore. it definitely seems to induce more mucus which is nice and the overall feeling is extra sloppy. that being said, not all soaps are equal so I'm not sure what the feeling would be if we were using a stronger soap, or one with added perfumes etc... the other thing to note if you're thinking of trying this out is how well used your soap is. a brand new bar of soap, fresh out of the wrapper, is bone dry and firm on the surface. once a bar has been used a bunch of times (hand washing, regular soap use) that surface is soft and more readily makes a lather. towards the end of its life, a bar of soap is very soft and begins to break up quite easily. so for a first time, I'd recommend a brand new bar of mild, perfume free soap. this would give you the best chance to enjoy the experience.