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Reason I didn't post this in general because it's a future request. tongue.gif

Also because there's a few Porn Stars coming back out of retirement, worthy of note here.

Here's some pics of the future titles, being released in June, July and August:

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The titles I will highlight by myself, are: Anal Acrobats 4, Anal Buffet 2 and Gape Lovers 4.

All I can mention really, is that Jay Sin has finally gone back to the European girls, like the ones he used to work with in his Sineplex days. See if you can spot them! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Tangerine @ May 17 2009, 09:21 AM) [snapback]136001[/snapback]

Can't wait to get them tongue.gif (^^)


Is that it? I was hoping to discuss a little more. dry.gif

Let me make myself clear, is there no one here (except me, obviously) who keeps up to date on what's coming out from the industry?

I'm trying to talk shop. friends.gif

For example, Angelina Crow and Lara Stevens have come out of "retirement," and recently we saw Annette Schwartz fly back to Europe from America to retire.

Plus, the girls from dildosandfisting.com that you guys have been trying to find the scene for, is in the cast of one of the titles, if you look above^^.

I mean... no one even asked for more pictures... are you guys asleep or something? sleep1.gif Edited by deeply
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Thanks for the offer Deeply, sorry for disapointing you but for my part I just drop a few welcome words here theses days , too much work IRL, sorry.
And you know threre's not much discussion around nowadays unsure.gif … (^ ^)
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QUOTE(Tangerine @ May 17 2009, 07:54 PM) [snapback]136060[/snapback]

Thanks for the offer Deeply, sorry for disapointing you but for my part I just drop a few welcome words here theses days , too much work IRL, sorry.
And you know threre's not much discussion around nowadays unsure.gif … (^ ^)


Do you want to see the rest of the pictures or not... huh.gif

Well... I was hoping that at least G and some other power users would drop in for a tweet. mellow.gif
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well I really like where they are going with all this. sadly it seems the are about the only ones. as far as future releases go I really only DL so I hit the new posts button but yeah I really should keep up on what is coming out and who is doing what.

if you got more pics I would like to see them. I liked all youposted so far. smile.gif
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Of course we want more pix if you can, Deeply tongue.gif It's just times have changed from the old days and now you'll be facing a humongous porn flood with probably no much answer alas ohmy.gif notworthy.gif (^ ^)
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Wait what?
Annette Schwarz retiring? She's still constantly updating her own website and blog with new material.

Anyway, I'm glad there's a new anal acrobats coming, those were always my favorite jay sin movies.

As for the european girls, meh, mixed feelings I guess. They're always hot, that's the pro. The con is I like it when I know (sort of) what kind of person a porn star is. From my favorites I know more or less, they give interviews, have blogs or talk in behind the scenes scenes. Problem with euro pornstars is that they're dime a dozen, most of them from russia or ukraine, don't speak english, are often hard to find online because they frequently change names, you can't find a single interview or bio about them.


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Yes! Anal Acrobats 4! Definetly my favourite DVD series, I can't wait! Hope it includes plenty of winking. Though I must say I too prefer the American girls. Even though the looks of the Euro girls are a bit more beautiful sometimes they seem to do be a bit more mechanical and their dirty talk is terribly unconvincing. Though I can't blame them they hardly know english.
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QUOTE(Tangerine @ May 18 2009, 11:48 PM) [snapback]136171[/snapback]

Hey Deeply, stand up and chit-chat, you've got new answers ! jester.gif (^ ^)


Yeah well I had a 2 day break from the Internet. Let's call it survival training: surviving with withdrawal symptoms and connection deprivation. jester.gif

QUOTE(cz2000 @ May 18 2009, 11:29 PM) [snapback]136166[/snapback]

Yes! Anal Acrobats 4! Definetly my favourite DVD series, I can't wait! Hope it includes plenty of winking. Though I must say I too prefer the American girls. Even though the looks of the Euro girls are a bit more beautiful sometimes they seem to do be a bit more mechanical and their dirty talk is terribly unconvincing. Though I can't blame them they hardly know english.


You've got to think a little more deceptively with the European girls... because they lack the personality and the attitude you get with the American girls, you have nothing that gets in the way, when it comes to pushing the limits. For example, they're too fucking clueless and lacking in the independent thought department, that they won't think twice about doing something. But with the U.S., have most American Stars think twice about what they're doing, with their own intelligence getting in the way, and only seeing a risk to themselves, rather than an opportunity to make better porn. Think of it as "foreign exploitation," with their lack of education and awareness, we get to enjoy what some U.S. stars won't do. wink.gif

There's weaknesses on both sides: with the American Sass, you have the girl being really confident and professional in what she feels comfortable doing. However, there's no budging her in persuading her to plunge into the deep end. When the gears snap into place in her head, that she could be going "too far" for what she's comfortable with, the director has to make compromises, not the female performer. American girls will always have a little more to add to the piece, that they come up with on their own: where they show off their own inner talents, rather than you putting any serious effort in to take it out of them. smile.gif

With the European Airheads, you've got a complete lack of imagination and lustiness in what they do, to start with. They'll act like butter wouldn't melt, so cute but useless. Lots of pushing, but there's tiny progress all the way. But there's no barrier you're going to hit, like the American Sass. The professional Euro girl will get too caught up in the moment, to even care what it's going to feel like in the morning. So European girls will always be the lifeless blob of plasticine you'll have to mold, and find the talent by exploiting their lack of care. biggrin.gif

Obviously there are trends in both camps, and exceptions. tongue.gif

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well I really like where they are going with all this. sadly it seems the are about the only ones. as far as future releases go I really only DL so I hit the new posts button but yeah I really should keep up on what is coming out and who is doing what.

if you got more pics I would like to see them. I liked all youposted so far. smile.gif


Well, we hardly get to sit in the board room where they throw ideas at each other. laugh.gif

And "future releases" only means that there's a long and ordered post-production process. If they were really that well planned, then they should release it on the day of the shoot. sleep.gif

I too fall behind on what's planned for the year... things spring up on me, but I'm pretty certain I've covered all the years that are behind us decently enough... so I spend my time now hunting for the latest releases, or the latest information on what's planned. Going over old ground gets boring. sleep1.gif

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Of course we want more pix if you can, Deeply tongue.gif It's just times have changed from the old days and now you'll be facing a humongous porn flood with probably no much answer alas ohmy.gif notworthy.gif (^ ^)

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QUOTE(Dats @ May 18 2009, 11:11 PM) [snapback]136161[/snapback]

Wait what?
Annette Schwarz retiring? She's still constantly updating her own website and blog with new material.

Anyway, I'm glad there's a new anal acrobats coming, those were always my favorite jay sin movies.

As for the european girls, meh, mixed feelings I guess. They're always hot, that's the pro. The con is I like it when I know (sort of) what kind of person a porn star is. From my favorites I know more or less, they give interviews, have blogs or talk in behind the scenes scenes. Problem with euro pornstars is that they're dime a dozen, most of them from russia or ukraine, don't speak english, are often hard to find online because they frequently change names, you can't find a single interview or bio about them.
Thanks for the pics


Well I've read several other blogs, that are admitting (whether true or not), she has said she will quit porn.

I've even got Jay Sin's words himself on the fact the Anal Buffet scene she did with him, was the "final time" she'd be in front of the camera, in America making porn. I have a few conclusions, that could all be possibilities:

-She / her website support team is /are updating her sites with material that's already been shot / filmed, and has quit porn for good.
-She is still making porn, and this was some kind of break... or she's quit making feature titles for American labels...
-She is still making porn, and this was some kind of publicity stunt to get more attention: either by the people making the porn, or the owners of the American labels themselves
-She is still making porn, and she had some kind of scare, or was told to stop, but decided to change her mind and continue regardless. Belladonna has done things like this in the past, where she's had a nervous break down and questioning her religion, and reflecting on her Catholic upbringing.

Here's some real words I'll quote from Jay Sin (I can contact him "personally," on the web at least):

He got asked about the latest scene Annette Schwarz was in, that he directed... if you don't know, he's discussing Anal Buffet.

QUOTE( "Jay Sin")
It’s the last scene cover-girl Annette Schwarz shot before returning to Germany and retiring. She’ll be missed.


Retiring sounds like quitting to me. And she's returned to Germany, but maybe she's doing things for her website there? It's all speculation for now, I can only guess.

Annette Schwarz had definitely announced she is leaving porn... I am told. Jay Sin goes on to mention about his feelings for her, and how he feels about her quitting, when the subject is brought up.

QUOTE("Jay Sin")
Fuck, I miss her!There truly was nothing taboo for her. I have seen her snorting cum and getting cum on her eyeballs.


So... from the horse's mouth. Well, at least another horse. tongue.gif

Have you guys got any information on any other titles by any other labels, that may be of similar interest? Or even some websites? Edited by deeply
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How come Jay Sin went to Russia and there are still no video with russiandoll, analwhore (gilr from imlive), vanda? I do not know much aI would luv to see some great Jay Sin camera works with those 3 ladies and better all 3 of them together mmmmmmmm imagine such a movie ?
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bit write up deeply.

I would have to agree about American and EU girls for the most part.
USA - yes they have limits but they also have character. I would much rather have only 20% of the talent do the extreme stuff and do it because they want to and not because it is a paycheck. I cannot stop applauding Wifey because she got f'in rich and didnt have to sell her morals. Wifey shows some real "into it" but it does get pretty lame and boring after umpteen clips of her.
EU - sure you can pound them like you would a blow up sheep but most do not have any character, they are not IN the scene but rather just going through the motions. This is the type of girl you would want to buy for the night as watching the lifeless scenes can get just as tedious as your 152nd Wifey clip.

for me I prefer the Americans that get into it. kat, katja, julie knight all did great scenes for fucking machines and kat is always in the mood to be a freak.
but really the totaly best are ones like surreyslut, lysextreme, isela and frenton. you can see just how horney they are DURING. They want to be used and abused just as much as you want to abuse them up. drool.gif

There has been some good stuff coming lately, Anal Acrobats and Deep Anal Abyss. but honestly were many not dissapointed? I mean sure it is new highs for production porn but IF you could have made the movie would you not have found some real slutty anal loving bitches to FILL the movie. there is too much amatuer that blows away what they are doing. sure they got better lightting, better cameras, better looking talent but what they lack it true rutting grit. if they had that BOOM HEADSHOT!

retardment - all this news about this one retires and this one comes out of retirement blah blah. sluts come and they go. this is not boxing/wraslin'/football what not. they start to get morals and think they are better then the porn world.... and some come back for the money, but honestly I cannot see why Annette would retire, she loves being a cock toy. besides she got a website.... retirement news is good advertisement is it not?
btw Bella "retired" but is she still making porn?

money makes the world go around.
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QUOTE(FEDOR @ May 20 2009, 06:25 AM) [snapback]136292[/snapback]

How come Jay Sin went to Russia and there are still no video with russiandoll, analwhore (gilr from imlive), vanda? I do not know much aI would luv to see some great Jay Sin camera works with those 3 ladies and better all 3 of them together mmmmmmmm imagine such a movie ?


I think Russian doll is in Slovakia, but whatever: we haven't seen her at all in a porn scene, just on webcam... and hardly ANYTHING at all on that. She may do shows every week, but how many shows do you think she pushes her ass out like that? The minority, I'd guess. She's probably very difficult to contact.

Vanda is easier, because she's done work in the past, and she started with her own site, which has been an astronomically better success than analexam.com, which is now defunct. She's done work for Eastern European labels: dildoandfisting.com with Sasha comes to mind. But she IS in a future scene, at least of what I'm told and can expect. So far, it's only rumors and hearsay, but I'll try to contact Jay about it, to find out the truth, according to him.

And which girl from Imlive.com? imDEZYRE, HotKinkyJo, WildAssholeSlut, BestAnalxx (Russian Doll), ButtHoleSuzy, Nikkiferrari23, Chelsea or xKinkyGirlx?

Wild Asshole Slut is from Bulgaria or Romania... or somewhere like that, not Russia. She's probably the most well-known of the imlive extreme anal girls. But I haven't scene anything except webcam from her, and I imagine it is difficult to contact her, like Russian Doll.

Nikkiferrari23 is from the U.S., I think.

I don't know much about the rest, really. But I do know they're not signing up to any labels to make movies, anytime soon.

QUOTE(Tangerine @ May 20 2009, 10:38 AM) [snapback]136309[/snapback]

smile.gif Thanks Deeply for chat, insight, infos and pix, good thread notworthy.gif (^ ^)


No problem, OJ. laugh.gif If you would join in with your own views and info, that would be showing a little more appreciation, however.

QUOTE(anllover @ May 20 2009, 02:36 PM) [snapback]136330[/snapback]

bit write up deeply.

I would have to agree about American and EU girls for the most part.
USA - yes they have limits but they also have character. I would much rather have only 20% of the talent do the extreme stuff and do it because they want to and not because it is a paycheck. I cannot stop applauding Wifey because she got f'in rich and didnt have to sell her morals. Wifey shows some real "into it" but it does get pretty lame and boring after umpteen clips of her.
EU - sure you can pound them like you would a blow up sheep but most do not have any character, they are not IN the scene but rather just going through the motions. This is the type of girl you would want to buy for the night as watching the lifeless scenes can get just as tedious as your 152nd Wifey clip.

for me I prefer the Americans that get into it. kat, katja, julie knight all did great scenes for fucking machines and kat is always in the mood to be a freak.
but really the totaly best are ones like surreyslut, lysextreme, isela and frenton. you can see just how horney they are DURING. They want to be used and abused just as much as you want to abuse them up. drool.gif

There has been some good stuff coming lately, Anal Acrobats and Deep Anal Abyss. but honestly were many not dissapointed? I mean sure it is new highs for production porn but IF you could have made the movie would you not have found some real slutty anal loving bitches to FILL the movie. there is too much amatuer that blows away what they are doing. sure they got better lightting, better cameras, better looking talent but what they lack it true rutting grit. if they had that BOOM HEADSHOT!

retardment - all this news about this one retires and this one comes out of retirement blah blah. sluts come and they go. this is not boxing/wraslin'/football what not. they start to get morals and think they are better then the porn world.... and some come back for the money, but honestly I cannot see why Annette would retire, she loves being a cock toy. besides she got a website.... retirement news is good advertisement is it not?
btw Bella "retired" but is she still making porn?

money makes the world go around.


I wouldn't bring sentiments and the liking of what kind of person they are, when they're only going to make you feel hurt by what they do, as much as make you beat one out. I can develop a crush on a girl if I like the person she is, and the sass the American girls give, with a twinkle in their eye, doesn't prevent me from getting crushes on them. I used to have a crush on Bobbi Starr, but every time I witness 2 Black cave men fucking her, with 13+ inch dicks, slamming her as hard as they can, it hurts. cry.gif If she's happy, that's just as important, but it's equally hurting that it's not me giving her happiness... and that's how you're gonna feel for the American women, and ultimately you're going to hate them for it. Call it selfish, but it's human nature. It's very frustrating knowing she can get an equal amount of pleasure from a toy or her fist, but if she chooses another guy, then it's doubly difficult to watch: for the simples reason that you don't want to see a guy, or anything the guy does (get sexually aroused, perform sexually, get naked, ejaculate, etc.), and you don't want to see the woman you want, to have another man or men, and not you. If it's woman on woman, or more than two women, then it's more than one woman you want, and having women want women, is a better compromise to them using men. I'm anti B/G, and always will be: they have been redundant since the 1970s.

You also have to remember there's nothing personal about your personal time. You're sharing what you're watching, with everyone else who's watched, which isn't a nice thought to go through your head while your watching. And the very fact it's public, takes a little value of it away, too. Because any care that she has, to make you happy, is lost. So the personal time we give, is far from personal for what we share it with.

I think you can't care too much about whoever is in front of the camera, because it gets too complicated. Essentially it's a compromise. So you should compromise any attachment you have, and simply "get a grip" for the basic arousal.

As far as I know, Katja is German... so another EU girl. blink.gif

Kat I find her shaped more like a child, than a woman. There's no female shape to her. I don't even know if that's a real woman, to be frank. Figuratively for me, she isn't. I don't care how much she squirts and pushes her ass out, I'm not instantly completely attracted to her.

Julie Night is getting old now, but I do love her sexual appetite, that seems almost sadomasochistic at times. She seems almost maniacal when she gets going.

Katja is a little frumpy for me, and I haven't seen her gape enough. sleep.gif

When you mention fucking machines, I fucking hate those scenes. They have women being pounded nonstop, and they never get a real good close up to see a gape, or anything. I've watched the marathon fucking scene, where you have Kat, Julie and the other Asian girl (she not worth my time looking up her name, or mentioning it) all slamming it, and you never get to see how raw their asses are, or even a close up of the machines going in and out. The way they film and direct, is fucking frustrating, and will always annoy me. Nonstop cock teasing scenes. dry.gif


Surrey Slut is from the UK... and she's not even worth comparing to anything young and gorgeous. I find watching her, like watching a fat pig rutting in its own filth. It's not attractive. I probably will in the future, beat one out for her ass pushing out or gaping, to be completely honest with you. But I feel guilty after for abusing myself like that, so immediately find some gorgeous girl to look at.

Lys I find too masculine, and too fake. Fake tits, probably work done to Lys's face, and I think there's a chance Lys might be a man. There was no transition from Lys doing anything soft, or anything slightly less hardcore. There was never a chance for me to grow into stomaching rubbing myself for that, or for me to fade my caring about what is not a really attractive to me. I don't think I'll ever catch myself crying from my penis watching Lys.

Isela is ugly. No avoiding that, and from Brazil I think? No, I never found it attractive how her partner shoved objects up there, and she pushed them out. No dilation or pleasure, at all. Always a look of pain in her face, to me.

Freton was the guy, and Chris was the girl, no? Or the other way around. Anyway, she seems to be very slave-like. Not exactly your ideal, in terms of the way you stereotype what you like to be the sass: seems to take it, and nothing else... lying there, or crouching... whatever. I think you're imagining some of these women you watch, that they're enjoying it the way you think they are. In the scenes, she's moaning and making almost animal noises... that could be sexual gratification, but it could equally be her in pain, or in shock of the sensation of having her rectum completely destroyed like that. Sure, I've whacked one out watching maybe a few of those scenes... but it's only for the gape or the ass pushing out, and not for the sound or thinking there's any enjoyment in it: usually put on mute, or turned down... or even ignored.

Look, I'll say this about Jay Sin: Much of what he does, I probably wouldn't change. The way he generally films, what he generally captures, and generally who he hires. But it's not me directing, or deciding what he makes. Then it wouldn't be his.

I would probably choose more girls who were more experienced, but some of his picks I have grown to like partly, rather than growing to completely hate them, when starting off, I didn't agree with him choosing them.

I would also at least attempt to include women who were a lot naturally beautiful: hotter, less make up, less fake.

Seeming as I can speak several languages, I could probably go over to Europe, and find the right girls to film from Europe. It's probably difficult to get some of the more indigenous, Non-English speaking girls into the scenes.

If the rutting grit isn't there, then you audition and cast someone else. Simple as that: it won't work otherwise. I think it's about what Evil Angel wants, rather than what limits the girls have, sometimes. You could call it corporate correctiveness, or a P.C. thought slowly slipping into the conscience of a few. It's also because they are taking risks when they're making such filth, as well as already the legal risks of what they do film now.

I always feel when it comes to extreme, there's more pressure to make sure it's OK, and it's not going to end up in court, than there is pressure to make it good. Sometimes Cortisol overcomes the rational thinking for an opportunity.

Belladonna contracted herpes, that's why she stopped doing boy / girl scenes. The whole moral superiority thing, with her seeing the industry as immoral, was a brief flash of her losing the plot: I think it was during the time of her pregnancy, or something. Maybe PMS or hormones. But it was long before she "quit" for good, due to herpes.

She directs now, and does "interact" in Girl/Girl scenes, as well as doing solo for her own site, I think she's still doing that... not sure.

She shouldn't be doing unprotected sex scenes with guys anymore, anyway. Unless they have herpes, too.

There's a big cover up with the amount of Infection that goes around in the industry. It's no conspiracy, because they're not hiding it very well. They simply deny some stars have infections, which obviously do have infections. Yet another reason I like avoiding the American sass and experience: I don't want to be thinking about what they've caught.

Yeah, I think I've decided to think that Annette probably told everyone she was going to, for self-advertising. People are stupid that way: they always are curious, and want to make sure they really did, so they check her site, and find out she isn't. Then through some "eureka" moment, they think they should sign up, because they before they feel they were taking the site for granted. Or at least that's the thought and intention they might try to capture.

And they do most of it for the money, I agree... maybe because EU girls don't get paid as much, it has less to do with that, perhaps? But that's mainly due to the poor nation's economy, or what things cost out there. I think if you were friends first, and she did it once for free, then you started paying her, that may not be about the money. But that may be her plan all along: to fool you into thinking it's not about the money. Women always exploit anything their anatomical assets can get away with: devious, to the end.

Oh if anybody wants to see more pictures from the future releases, I can show you some more, but you have to ask.

If you need any scenes or footage, or even pictures from any previous works of Jay Sin, then I can supply them in this thread.

A few pictures as an example of previous works, already released (so I didn't waste your time scrolling right down), with these being from Anal Lesbian Sweethearts:

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Plus any other related titles from directors from Evil Angel, like Open Ended, etc.

Or even other labels, like Sineplex, or whatever. Edited by deeply
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well I must agree with a lot of what you said but will quickly add...

women seem to be more 'uppity' in the states and that plays into how much you have to pay them.

as far as sexy young beauty in porn... well most will have eyes on real money in hollywood. look at all the talentless sexy singers and actresses getting paid shit loads. this plays a big part on the pool the porn industry has to pull from.

the names I threw are not the best examples I know but many do seem to me to really get 'into' the scenes. sure most of the amatuers are NOT models but I can hear in them sounds I make when I am having extreme fun (since you dont like f2m I wont go into details). it is this horned up 'into' it that I do enjoy.

as for Isela I think she does enjoy at least half of it if not more. getting pushed past your limits can be very enjoyable for some folks. she is in Arizona btw.

chris and frenton, yes you are right Chris is the girl. I miss spoke.

Any I called American that werent I lump there since they were produced mostly by big American labels and pasted from label to label.

Kat... well I do totally understand why you said what you did... she is more of a loli look than anything. I don't mind flat chests and I like petite but as I said her attitude is what I enjoy.

You mention being disconnected with who is in front of the camera... well that is probably why I can toss out old names but is tough for me to keep up with the new... my heart was broken so many times. Anastasia Blue (probably not your taste) and do you remember when ....fuck I forget her name.... was thin and flat chested - so much sexyness and fire, she got a boob job and broke my heart. many of them broke my heart so I stopped taken them so serious... just another carnal joy.

take care and I will be back when this thread bumps.
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QUOTE(anllover @ May 20 2009, 11:08 PM) [snapback]136373[/snapback]

well I must agree with a lot of what you said but will quickly add...

women seem to be more 'uppity' in the states and that plays into how much you have to pay them.


A higher status of themselves, and that does determine how much they think what they do for you with their time, is worth. Indeed. I find it a whole debacle to deal with paying a girl. She doesn't want to do it, but that's a derivative; an alternative. I mean I think the going rate should be whatever she could be doing, within a reasonable hypothesis, and whatever she would earn in the time she takes to do whatever it is she is being asked to do. Of course, if she wasn't going to find anything to do anyway, then she should do it for a set price, based upon whatever potential she would have, to do whatever she could be doing, hypothetically. Complicated, I know. blink.gif

I think it's better, and shows far more talent to get a woman to do something for free, that she ultimately would say yes to, and no to everything else, and it just so happens it's exactly what you ask. The power of love? wub.gif amorek.gif

QUOTE(anllover @ May 20 2009, 11:08 PM) [snapback]136373[/snapback]
as far as sexy young beauty in porn... well most will have eyes on real money in hollywood. look at all the talentless sexy singers and actresses getting paid shit loads. this plays a big part on the pool the porn industry has to pull from.


Well record labels are dying a slow death, but the end is almost nigh. Films and other media are still trotting along for the young girls to become "inspired" to waste their time trying, but they will go the same route that the music labels are going, if they don't pull their thumbs out of their ass and give a thumbs up to free content on the web. This recession will put pressure on the entertainment industry to stop paying people so much, anyway. Dumb people with money caused the recession in the first place... not exactly wise to let them continue earning and keeping it.

Think of all the failed actresses and failed pop divas... ever played "I've seen her in porn?" jester.gif

QUOTE(anllover @ May 20 2009, 11:08 PM) [snapback]136373[/snapback]
the names I threw are not the best examples I know but many do seem to me to really get 'into' the scenes. sure most of the amatuers are NOT models but I can hear in them sounds I make when I am having extreme fun (since you dont like f2m I wont go into details). it is this horned up 'into' it that I do enjoy.


Well, you should be thinking of better examples. Got any? Shall I help you? tongue.gif

Yeah, best to not even mention "that," but you did. My eyes now are parrying away your avatar, to avoid any more torturing thoughts, that will be hard to shake out of the head.

About the sounds though, it's more like a grunting and a groaning... I feel any endogenous opioid polypeptide compounds (endorphins) experienced during that kind of abuse, are just the body allowing you to cope, so you don't go into shock (maybe it's a form of sexual shock), or think of it as a defense mechanism. I think of it like alcohol: people want to get more and more, and there's an amount that's too much, but it's very difficult to keep in moderation for most people, at the moment. I really feel that maybe it's too much. So it's abuse, and then that's exploitation by damaging themselves, in order for you to get your jollies off. We are very destructive, and even very self-destructive, but we also have the drive to avoid damage and death as long as we can. Sometimes pain and pleasure can be two sides of the same coin, but when their lines cross, it's uncharted territory, and very difficult to conduct any real presentational stability, or sanity to be able to know what is really too far.

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as for Isela I think she does enjoy at least half of it if not more. getting pushed past your limits can be very enjoyable for some folks. she is in Arizona btw.


Oh, I didn't think to recall that they moved, and where they live. But I'm sure at least Isela, her partner, or both of them are from South America, at least.

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chris and frenton, yes you are right Chris is the girl. I miss spoke.


You stand corrected. jester.gif Free points! laugh.gif

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Any I called American that werent I lump there since they were produced mostly by big American labels and pasted from label to label.


Yeah, most of them become residents in America. You may be surprised how many actually do.

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Kat... well I do totally understand why you said what you did... she is more of a loli look than anything. I don't mind flat chests and I like petite but as I said her attitude is what I enjoy.


I used to have a corrupted view, that the younger, the better... but it's not really thinking far enough. It should be corrected to being: "The younger they start puberty, and start looking and acting like women, the better." We can then reclassify the legal limit. After all, it's time wasted. I think I'd prefer that we all were ready to go off an production line, or something... no growing up or wasted time learning. I know that sounds like the Borg, but I've always had a distinct resentment of all the time I wasted as a kid. Wouldn't it be better to live 70 or 80 years as a 21 year-old person in their prime? I think so.

I still find myself the most mature guy I know...

No Drugs. No Alcohol. No Smoking Tobacco. No Bad Foods... etc.

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You mention being disconnected with who is in front of the camera... well that is probably why I can toss out old names but is tough for me to keep up with the new... my heart was broken so many times. Anastasia Blue (probably not your taste) and do you remember when ....fuck I forget her name.... was thin and flat chested - so much sexyness and fire, she got a boob job and broke my heart. many of them broke my heart so I stopped taken them so serious... just another carnal joy.

take care and I will be back when this thread bumps.


This Anastasia Blue?

http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=Anas...stasia-blue.htm

What Kream did to herself with all the fake, is almost unforgivable... she even doesn't perform the way she does: I think she peaked in 2005. dry.gif

There's many more we could go on about for ages... it's as much the corruption and weakness of the girl's minds, as much as any real pressure to do what they do, that does exist, that they perceive... which drives them into the ground.

Well, I can't really remove myself from when I can be serious. I'll be serious about them, even after they crush my crushes. I lose interest, and move on. Even feel I could try to force them to feel how I feel, as some kind of equal displacement. I may decide to "forget" and move on, but there's no forgiveness. They can't undo what they did. I won't budge on what I feel or think, because it's what I stand for and look for. I don't look for someone I can get involved with, and for them to do things I don't like, that can't be overcome with what I did like about them. Things I don't like dissolve anything they did before that got me interested in them, in the first place. Even if they still have things that I'm looking for, they are wasted to me.

Anyway, enough playing the blues. You're always going to get frustrated with women in porn, because it defeats the purpose that it exhibits.

I'll simply look on at Bobbi Starr, for what I remember that I liked about how she looks, and not fall into any more traps of care or feeling.

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A great post, Deeply and thanks to all who contributed. Deeply, i'm intrigued that you can communicate with Jay! I love much of what he does, but often want to say the following to him.
Many of us want to see deep rectal shots with good light, preferably up to the appendix! Could he please use lighting to achieve optimum internal visibility? And, while having a girl shove her tongue in a gaping asshole is dirty and therefore needs to be filmed, can we have a proportion of gapes where nothing obstructs the view? Also, vaginas are not to be ignored totally. some of his scenes have girls with natural vag gapes, but he could make so much more of them! You could be forgiven for thinking he doesn't even see their twats.
If these comments could be fed to him, that'd be great!
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QUOTE(Rushy @ May 21 2009, 09:09 AM) [snapback]136404[/snapback]

A great post, Deeply and thanks to all who contributed. Deeply, i'm intrigued that you can communicate with Jay! I love much of what he does, but often want to say the following to him.
Many of us want to see deep rectal shots with good light, preferably up to the appendix! Could he please use lighting to achieve optimum internal visibility? And, while having a girl shove her tongue in a gaping asshole is dirty and therefore needs to be filmed, can we have a proportion of gapes where nothing obstructs the view? Also, vaginas are not to be ignored totally. some of his scenes have girls with natural vag gapes, but he could make so much more of them! You could be forgiven for thinking he doesn't even see their twats.
If these comments could be fed to him, that'd be great!


Well that sucks I let that one slip and someone has decided to highlight it... I have to be all... "avoiding" with you, so I'll simply go over I'm not discussing that.

It's a little revealing who I was... well a clue of what I am, if I do hobnob and namedrop. Yeah, I have access to running discussions with the guys at the editing ranch of the E.A. label too. They're a bunch of porn addicts like us, really. Ah shit, shut up... sorry I'm a little fucked up at the moment.

Anyway, you can contact him yourself if you search for him on the web. Not difficult. Obviously he can't deal with every shitty suggestion he gets his way.

I will probably think about asking some questions to him, but I'll omit at my discretion: I'll ignore any pressure you intend to force on me.

I don't feel a need to focus on the vagina. That's not what I expect or want from what he makes, and neither does he, at the moment.

If you're wondering who came up with the name "Anal Acrobats," it was John Stagliano. That guy comes up with most of the titles... one that comes to mind that made me laugh the other day, was Up´r Class.

I also now refer to breasts as natural headlights. laugh.gif

I'll answer for him, if you want.

What do you want them to do, stick bulbs up their ass? By the way, you know all those energy efficient bulbs that are getting popular... they all have copious amounts of mercury in them: there's always an even worse price, when you go green. It's almost hysterical to think about all the guys in Hollywood now, in their Toyota Hybrids, all driving around to stay popular, by showing they are green. I see those toxic cars all the time. You would have to have the car driving for thousands of years, to offset the difference in the carbon footprint, that is made in the manufacturing of a Toyota hybrid car, in comparison to a kit car made from parts by yourself, that runs on gas.

Oh, I posted and didn't read everything and answer to what you typed.

Well, to continue... even if I went really off tangent... lighting is a really big ask for some cameras, and it gets really challenging to use large amounts of light, and still capture the same quality, without everything being captured really poorly, from the light being totally over the top. Using a little light, and as little as possible to get as much visibility as possible, is best for the equipment to film whatever you can. I know you need light sometimes, but the use of blank, white walls and lots of color to reflect off the bare canvas, you get an easier control of the light. That's another reason why he uses these techniques, too. To get a decent enough light that illuminates, and doesn't ruin the quality of the detail in the footage in any way, costs tens of thousands to buy the equipment. Obviously, filming in a nice and clean, white room is a lot more cost effective. And I don't know any decent lights, that have managed to not be so damn hot... they tire out the girls, sometimes.

Yeah, you sometimes get the girl-girl scenes becoming a battle between getting the angle and shot wanted, and the girls actually getting immersed in the scene. But I think he really does do a good job in capturing the gapes. I wouldn't say a tongue spoils it really, either. tongue.gif

Again, I'll summarize how I feel about good vagina-focused porn: it's been done OVER AND OVER, with more overs than I bother to type. What Jay Sin offers with his titles, is a unique thing to watch, I feel. If you don't like the main themes of what he does, then don't watch.

I recently browsed through all my Evil Pink scenes I have. Fuck, I have to say you should invest some time into watching those, if you like what Jay Sin makes. Not as good, but there's some good girl-girl / solo in there.

Well, I was thinking the other day about adding Evil Pink 4 on Blue Ray to this topic.

I found my Blue Ray file, and it's almost 15 gigabytes!

I managed to get an upload on Rapidshare, but it's going to be such a fucking pain to download it (over 100 URLs), that I was thinking about asking for help, to upload it somewhere else.

You have to have almost 30 gigabytes free storage, to put it on your hard disk, because the file is rar compressed.

Any takers? Anllover?

Here's a sample:

http://rapidshare.com/files/196829649/ev-epd1.sample.vob Edited by deeply
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QUOTE(Tangerine @ May 29 2009, 08:12 AM) [snapback]137239[/snapback]

NOT MUCH TIME TO CHIT CHAT BUT WOW EXCELLENT THREAD ! MORE BUMP ! notworthy.gif (^ ^)


Even though I hate what Kream has done to herself, she's OK.

And I like Bobbi. tongue.gif

When the blue ray versions are out, they'll go in this thread. friends.gif
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When the blue ray versions are out, they'll go in this thread

can't wait for that biggrin.gif
and like Tang said , no time for a little chat , but the damn pics are fine tongue.gif
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QUOTE(z3n0mal4 @ May 30 2009, 01:37 PM) [snapback]137395[/snapback]

can't wait for that biggrin.gif
and like Tang said , no time for a little chat , but the damn pics are fine tongue.gif


Expect them to be on rapid share tongue.gif

Trailer of Gape Lovers 4:

://trailers.evilangel.com/JaySin/1000009161_medium.flv Edited by deeply
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BUMP... jester.gif

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There's going to be web-based content that's web exclusive, ohmy.gif so I bet we'll be all over that. laugh.gif

So that means there's going to be scenes ONLY available from the site, and they won't be on D.V.D. / Blue Ray. blink.gif
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