Absolute anal beginner here. Best method to go from zero to rosebutt?

[MinMaxedAlt]

Hi, new to the board, although I imagine this kind of topic comes up annoyingly often. I have read what I would say is a decent amount about developing a prolapse, but most of it is from the perspective of people already used to moderate anal. So, fuck it, might as well try to get an answer for my specific situation, right?

So, early 20s guy (yeah, yeah, I know. call me a slur if it makes you feel better), started doing ass play about a month ago. At the moment, absolute max I can fit girth wise is a marker sized toy and two fingers, or three fingers if it's just my hand. Depth wise, I've only tried around four inches. This is because I've mainly been focused on stretching. I used to do a lot of kegels to get stronger boners and orgasms, and I feel like I've kinda sabotaged myself with that, because my ass is SUPER tight. It takes a LOT of work to fit even that very modest amount, so I've been trying to "undo" that by stretching, and the idea is I'll work on the inside once it doesn't take me fifteen minutes to get warmed up enough to fit a single finger. Let me know if this isn't the correct approach.

End goal is rosebutt (and I do actually mean rosebutt. I did read the definition guide), but I'm not gonna say no to a full-on prolapse. I only have the one toy (the marker sized one mentioned earlier) since I've only just started, and I don't really have a "toy budget". I get roughly 2-3 hours every night I can dedicate entirely to ass play, although I do obviously do the heavy straining most people recommend during the day. Current routine I've been doing is: Strain during the day, pop in my toy at night, sit and strain on it for about half an hour, then take the toy out and do some stretching with my fingers. I don't feel like I've been making much progress with this method, but I also haven't been doing it long.

That's about everything I think is relevant, but obviously say if you need more info. Really excited to get into this whole thing. Eager to hear your advice!

[TinyNutsTim]

Get a small inflatable dildo. Clean out with an enema bag. Lube up and stuff it in. Inflate until it is uncomfortable. It will go away in a few minutes, then inflate again until you are uncomfortable. Keep doing that until the discomfort does not go away and keep it in for 10 or 20 minutes. Deflate and resist the urge to kegel your hole. Repeat about three times, you should get a little looser each time. I used tapered toys I made, but the same thing. After you are through and if you don't want to lose anal function, do some anal kegels for 20 minutes or even more. By this time you will probably be aroused, I am. If you have not already, reward yourself with a nice orgasm.

Give your developing ass-pussy a rest for a week or more and repeat everything. When you get loose enough, get a pool ball and use that during kegels. Push it out, but before it exits, use your tortured anal muscles to squeeze it back in. Again, do this about 20 minutes. These kegel exorcises will slow down your progress, but will keep you from needing incontinence protection. But of course, there is a point where no kegels of any kind will help. Each of us is different, so you have find out that on your own. If you just want to be single fisted by a woman, you may not leak even by that time. Any more and it's your ass-cunt, your business.

Good luck and happy stretching.

Edited December 4, 2023 by TinyNutsTim

[MinMaxedAlt]

Noted. Thanks for the advice, especially with the anti-incontinence stuff. I do understand some loss of bowel control comes with the territory, but diapers really don't do it for me, so I'll take a slower and safer method over a fast one that'll have me shitting myself in public.

I don't really have any partner stuff in mind as part of my goal. This is entirely for me at the moment, and if someone ends up being down for that, I'm not gonna say no! If I had to describe what I'm picturing as an end goal, it'd be a wide open asshole with some wet meat near the entrance (but not necessarily protruding) I can dip my fingers into. Wet squelchy farts would also be very nice!

Anyway, enough fantasy. Thanks again for the response. Cheers!

[rileyyy]

3 hours ago, MinMaxedAlt said:

I do understand some loss of bowel control comes with the territory

it's actually the opposite, prolapse makes your shit smaller and harder to push out.

[TinyNutsTim]

On 12/4/2023 at 5:38 AM, MinMaxedAlt said:

Noted. Thanks for the advice, especially with the anti-incontinence stuff. I do understand some loss of bowel control comes with the territory, but diapers really don't do it for me, so I'll take a slower and safer method over a fast one that'll have me shitting myself in public.

I don't really have any partner stuff in mind as part of my goal. This is entirely for me at the moment, and if someone ends up being down for that, I'm not gonna say no! If I had to describe what I'm picturing as an end goal, it'd be a wide open asshole with some wet meat near the entrance (but not necessarily protruding) I can dip my fingers into. Wet squelchy farts would also be very nice!

Anyway, enough fantasy. Thanks again for the response. Cheers!

Okay, great. One more thing, you know how a lot of anal practitioners, like me who have these nice, fat and purple anal lips? They are actually a type of prolapse, a mucosal prolapse. They are an amazing and pleasurable growth for added pleasure. If you want them you can increase your chances by pushing very hard while stretching. I helps relax your anal muscles, too and speeds up results. At first I was not thrilled about them, but as they grew I began to like them more and more. If not, resist pushing while stretching your pussy out. 

[MinMaxedAlt]

Ah, okay. I'm not really into the purple lips, so thanks for the warning on that. I take it that means I should try and manipulate whatever I use to stretch myself manually, without using my ass muscles? Or are you simply talking about excessive pushing, like the method of sitting on a toy or what have you and trying to push it out, when of course it's on a hard surface and you never will. I'm sure purple ass lips are grand and all, but I'd really appreciate a clarification so I can avoid that.

[Wr876]

A guy on Fetlife wrote a post about what he says is the fastest way to stretch yourself out.

I copied it here: https://justpaste.it/9fomn

[MinMaxedAlt]

Hey everyone, just finished my stretching sesh for tonight and wanted to post something before I forget.

I've been following the advice from MrBumCum, which was linked to by Wr876. The advice for beginners is basically that you shove a toy up your ass and leave it there for a while. MBC also recommends using a finger or small toy to pull at each part of your sphincter as you slowly work your way around your ring, but my internal sphincter is still really tight, so I just use the largest toy I can fit at least 3 inches or so of. I aim for at least 30 minutes, but I do go for longer if I'm up to it.

As of now, I can fit the typical duck-bill/cone shaped hand recommended to those starting fisting up to about the second knuckle. If I exclude the thumb though, I can get all the way to the last knuckle. Very gratifying! I can also now fit a finger without any lube or warmup, which tells me what I'm doing is working. My lips have swollen somewhat, which Tim said might happen, but I don't mind them at this level. Kinda fun to watch it inflate before I get to work. (I record my sessions, both because the camera lets me see what's happening down there, and it also lets me see which technique or toy had the most impact. I'd highly recommend it to those just getting started at this!)

Also wanted to post a few tidbits I've learnt along the way for anyone who is also a beginner and would like to follow along:

• START SMALL! I used this tutorial by LaraJuicy to get my first finger in. At that point, just get used to having a single finger inside. Swirl it around a bit, have a good explore. After that, I moved up to a toy that was roughly the size of my middle finger. Again, just get used to having it in there. Push it in and out a few times. When you're ready, try and push it in as far as you can. Obviously, stop as soon as it becomes uncomfortable, but you might want to leave it where it became uncomfortable unless it's a real sting, because that discomfort might be from your rectum being stretched out.
• EXPERIMENT WITH ANGLES! Even just looking at an anatomical diagram, it's easy to see that the rectum already has some twists and turns to it. Factor in genetics and the current state of your anus and you get very unique buttholes. Personally, to get anywhere, I need to angle the toy down, towards my tailbone, to get past my prostate. Then, I need to turn left or right, depending on my position, to get it in nice and deep. If you're struggling to get anything in deep, try a wide range of angles. You may be surprised what you can fit! I know I was.
• MAKE A ROUTINE AND STICK TO IT! At the moment, I'm doing a session every other night. The night with no sessions is just to let my hole recover from any mistakes I may have made during play the previous night. I believe this is one of the major contributors to stretching my hole out. Your butthole isn't used to having stuff that large put into it, and it's gonna try and tighten itself back up. You cannot let that happen if you want to keep your progress.
• LEARN HOW TO CONTROL YOUR MUSCLES! There's several ways to manipulate your anus with your muscles, and each way has a different effect. I find it useful to try and assign a kind of "shape" to each way I can move my anus, which lets me replicate it. For example, to open up my ass and take something deeper, I need to picture my ass as a rectangle that is slowly expanding. I don't know why that works, but it does, and it could work for you too.
• GET SOME PILLOWS I find I'm the most comfortable and able to access my hole easier if I've got some pillows propping up my back, so my back is closer to sitting straight up, and I can curl my butt forward and up without getting back pain. You'll want firmer pillows than you might be used to, and you'll want to focus on lumbar and head support.
• USE MORE LUBE! I don't care if your hole is already slathered and slippery, you need more lube. Seriously, whatever amount of lube you think you need, you need more than that. My rule of thumb for toys is to rub the lube on in a jerk off motion, and you've got enough when the toy glides in your hand. You want whatever you're putting up there to be as friction-less as possible.
• GO SLOW!!! I cannot stress this enough. You will not be able to pop your rose out in your first session, or your fifth, or your tenth. So on and so forth. You are not a pornstar. You might think you've got the mechanics of how rosebutts and prolapsing works, but trust me, you don't know shit. Without the proper amount of stretching to build up a resting gape, you will tear your sphincter if you try to open up and push out your rose, and that just means it's gonna be longer between play sessions, which will set you back. Set a small, manageable goal, such as fitting a toy slightly bigger than the last, or fitting something deeper than you're used to, and set a time limit. I try and wrap up whatever I'm doing after about an hour has passed. Something I noticed is I kinda get addicted to fucking my hole during vigorous sessions, and that time limit stops me from getting too excited and tearing my hole with something too big.
• DON'T USE GLASS, YOU MORON! I cannot believe this might need to be said, but I've been reading back through the forum during idle moments, and apparently a lot of deeply stupid people think this is a great idea. Glass is brittle, and if it breaks, it's likely gonna tear up your rectum so badly that you'll need an ER visit, pronto. You do not want to be Jar Guy. No one wants to be Jar Guy.

Personally, I'd be almost fine with just taking this a bit further to the point where I can fit two fingers unlubed, but I know that wouldn't satisfy me. I ain't stopping til' I see the inside of my ass! Hopefully, that insane ramble helps someone. Looking forward to being a long-term participant in this forum!

Edited December 20, 2023 by MinMaxedAlt
forgot to add some advice

[Emil emil]

55 minutes ago, MinMaxedAlt said:

Hey everyone, just finished my stretching sesh for tonight and wanted to post something before I forget.

I've been following the advice from MrBumCum, which was linked to by Wr876. The advice for beginners is basically that you shove a toy up your ass and leave it there for a while. MBC also recommends using a finger or small toy to pull at each part of your sphincter as you slowly work your way around your ring, but my internal sphincter is still really tight, so I just use the largest toy I can fit at least 3 inches or so of. I aim for at least 30 minutes, but I do go for longer if I'm up to it.

As of now, I can fit the typical duck-bill/cone shaped hand recommended to those starting fisting up to about the second knuckle. If I exclude the thumb though, I can get all the way to the last knuckle. Very gratifying! I can also now fit a finger without any lube or warmup, which tells me what I'm doing is working. My lips have swollen somewhat, which Tim said might happen, but I don't mind them at this level. Kinda fun to watch it inflate before I get to work. (I record my sessions, both because the camera lets me see what's happening down there, and it also lets me see which technique or toy had the most impact. I'd highly recommend it to those just getting started at this!)

Also wanted to post a few tidbits I've learnt along the way for anyone who is also a beginner and would like to follow along:

• START SMALL! I used this tutorial by LaraJuicy to get my first finger in. At that point, just get used to having a single finger inside. Swirl it around a bit, have a good explore. After that, I moved up to a toy that was roughly the size of my middle finger. Again, just get used to having it in there. Push it in and out a few times. When you're ready, try and push it in as far as you can. Obviously, stop as soon as it becomes uncomfortable, but you might want to leave it where it became uncomfortable unless it's a real sting, because that discomfort might be from your rectum being stretched out.
• EXPERIMENT WITH ANGLES! Even just looking at an anatomical diagram, it's easy to see that the rectum already has some twists and turns to it. Factor in genetics and the current state of your anus and you get very unique buttholes. Personally, to get anywhere, I need to angle the toy down, towards my tailbone, to get past my prostate. Then, I need to turn left or right, depending on my position, to get it in nice and deep. If you're struggling to get anything in deep, try a wide range of angles. You may be surprised what you can fit! I know I was.
• MAKE A ROUTINE AND STICK TO IT! At the moment, I'm doing a session every other night. The night with no sessions is just to let my hole recover from any mistakes I may have made during play the previous night. I believe this is one of the major contributors to stretching my hole out. Your butthole isn't used to having stuff that large put into it, and it's gonna try and tighten itself back up. You cannot let that happen if you want to keep your progress.
• LEARN HOW TO CONTROL YOUR MUSCLES! There's several ways to manipulate your anus with your muscles, and each way has a different effect. I find it useful to try and assign a kind of "shape" to each way I can move my anus, which lets me replicate it. For example, to open up my ass and take something deeper, I need to picture my ass as a rectangle that is slowly expanding. I don't know why that works, but it does, and it could work for you too.
• USE MORE LUBE! I don't care if your hole is already slathered and slippery, you need more lube. Seriously, whatever amount of lube you think you need, you need more than that. My rule of thumb for toys is to rub the lube on in a jerk off motion, and you've got enough when the toy glides in your hand. You want whatever you're putting up there to be as friction-less as possible.
• GO SLOW!!! I cannot stress this enough. You will not be able to pop your rose out in your first session, or your fifth, or your tenth. So on and so forth. You are not a pornstar. You might think you've got the mechanics of how rosebutts and prolapsing works, but trust me, you don't know shit. Without the proper amount of stretching to build up a resting gape, you will tear your sphincter if you try to open up and push out your rose, and that just means it's gonna be longer between play sessions, which will set you back. Set a small, manageable goal, such as fitting a toy slightly bigger than the last, or fitting something deeper than you're used to, and set a time limit. I try and wrap up whatever I'm doing after about an hour has passed. Something I noticed is I kinda get addicted to fucking my hole during vigorous sessions, and that time limit stops me from getting too excited and tearing my hole with something too big.
• DON'T USE GLASS, YOU MORON! I cannot believe this might need to be said, but I've been reading back through the forum during idle moments, and apparently a lot of deeply stupid people think this is a great idea. Glass is brittle, and if it breaks, it's likely gonna tear up your rectum so badly that you'll need an ER visit, pronto. You do not want to be Jar Guy. No one wants to be Jar Guy.

Personally, I'd be almost fine with just taking this a bit further to the point where I can fit two fingers unlubed, but I know that wouldn't satisfy me. I ain't stopping til' I see the inside of my ass! Hopefully, that insane ramble helps someone. Looking forward to being a long-term participant in this forum!

Thanks for comment i like you i want get a rose im new here too i can in just four fingers in nothing more at this time and my width its 2.5” or 6 cms