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QUOTE(gninori @ Oct 5 2007, 09:40 PM) [snapback]56611[/snapback] it's not off topic, because of the self-ironic title i chose, but you're right i knew him as the prominent man in it, but he's not the founder the founder of gestapo as police force is Rudolf Diels, while the second life, more political, was established by Hermann Göring, and the third and last part of life was under Heinrich Himmler difficult to talk in detail about history, especially with regard to foreign countries i agree, and i did get the irony of it that i suppose others haven´t seen. i didn´t mention diels because i think you hinted at the political part of it. the original idea must have been something like the fbi not the abomination it became later.

Lets hope its just some tech stuff, then. First I thought there is some trouble with my internet connection...

Anyone else having problems getting into the sexandfunforum? I know some mods from over there are members here, do you know anything guys?

QUOTE(gninori @ Oct 5 2007, 03:09 PM) [snapback]56526[/snapback] btw, that's himmler, the founder of gestapo, with a young franco of spain. the worst of worst of europe those years, and my italy was the first to start all this madness well actually, the gestapo was first brought into being by herrmann göring but this baby of his was later taken over by himmler while göring was too occupied preparing the luftwaffe to bomb england sorry for offtopic