Max Hardcore was convicted today

[kohlanta]

He was convicted on all charges. Certain DVD's of his are now considered obscene and will be taken off the shelves. His site might go offline as well.

Thought you all might like to know

http://avn.com/video/articles/30610.html

As an earlier poster noted - Fisting has been deemed obscene in the U.S.

And the Feds have been warning producers for several years. And most producers listened, OR could have gone offshore. That's why all the piss, puke fist stuff went bye-bye from most online sites. Most peeps who follow that stuff bemoan the loss of favorite clips. Well, there was a reason.

The Feds also had a real hard-on for Max as they got a hung jury the last time around.

As Max's case is a Federal rap, if given a prison sentence, if would be served at a Federal facility.

The Feds have the luxury of shopping for a good trial venue given the community standards issue.

Ken Marcus is near the top of 'pretty arty' BDSM producers and they told him to say good-bye to his fisting stuff.

There are surprisingly few federal obscenity cases underway.

The truly sad part of this is the RedRoseStories case.

http://www.avn.com/law/articles/30261.html

The world has gone fucking mad.

[machine]

not a big surprise really. prior to 9/11 producers had been told that the Bush Admin was going to be coming after them in a big way. They need something to make them feel like they are accomplishing something (the "war on terror" certainly isn't providing that).

[Rubbish]

I don't cry for Max he is a ass hole.

Fisting is obscene in the USA,that's stupid, anyway we live in Europa and we can fisting

[Tangerine]

I think everyone should cry when somebody is censored/convicted on porn and don't be so sure this couldn't happen in Europe, even in longtime free speech countries like yours and mine, it's common american tendancies cross the ocean and come to us some years later.

Let's take our arms and fists to prepare to defend our perv values (^ ^) Edited June 8, 2008 by Tangerine

[Milalover]

If we use the legal system, we're fucked.

If we use the right to protest, we're fucked.

If we go draconian, we're fucked.

Game set match. Fucking Devolution.

We have no resource or capability to withstand the oncoming tide of arms aimed at liberty.

The zombification process of negative liberty is finally onsetting its consequence, and nullified any strength that existed. Edited June 8, 2008 by Milalover

[arthemis]

Stupid american censorship... The fucking catholic biggots are not much different from the islam ayatollah :-/

I dont like Max Hardcore but i dont understand this sentence...

Anal fuck is not indecent ? Hell it's still forbiden in some states in the US !!!

[Milalover]

Next women won't be able to have real orgasms on camera.

I heard about the whole female ejaculation debate with Evil Angel...

I reckon Kevin Smith the movie producer should be in charge of obscenity laws: let kids see violence and sex as long as it completely sticks with all the harsh truths that reality bares, so they get the full fucking picture and actually form rationality and logic rather than conventional morals.

All malformations start with what we "censor" to our children...

I think people are getting just about bombarded enough with things like this that the patronizing of what we can and can't do will definitely start a revolt even in mainstream society. Will it do any good though? Edited June 8, 2008 by Milalover

[WebRanger]

I don't cry for Max he is a ass hole.

Fisting is obscene in the USA,that's stupid, anyway we live in Europa and we can fisting

I totally agree with Rubbish, and I don't miss Max at all

[gninori]

i don't see anything obscene in what he did, just sometimes silly porn and stupid talk, and so that's strict censorship of alternative ways of sex between consenting adults
even if you dont like max you should defend his right to and freedom of sexual speech
to whom the bell tolls: right to everyone

[curiousboy]

Another sign of worst times coming...

Sigh,

cb

[anllover]

god ol USA fuckin everything up.

I would like to point our a few things... ok more one thing but it brings up the stupidity of most americans.

quote from article:
"I'm full of good spirits and they didn't get my house," Hardcore said. "We're talking to a couple of jurors and they felt very strongly for me, but the way the laws are formulated, they were boxed in to a corner. I should have got off for this nonsense; obscenity is an archaic term, it's not defined well. I received no warning and they attempted to put me behind bars; they've got a conviction, but we intend to fight on."

You do not need to convict a person of stupid laws. Juries can do whatevery they want. They are the fucking jury!!! Easy as this. "we find the defendant Not Guilty and find this law uncontitutional"

Many americans are fuckin up the counrty and thus the world and the only good people doing anything to save us are creepy pervs like Max H. Bless these pervs








side note - what is really obsene is ordering something and then being offended by it. fuck you you ordered the damn thing, live with your descision.

[z3n0mal4]

this is again about their stupid terrorism war , so they ban all kind of stuff , but the violence is OK to watch , so all they see around them is violence , so yes , lets vote those who will continue the war . i say ban the violence , see more sex , go fuck ur sexy neighbour and have a pleasent life

[Tangerine]

Rubbish & Webranger, even if you hate MaxH, his penalty will put more moral pressures on porn and on our fav fetishes IMO. (° °)

[Milalover]

Those guys are both malformed people who think morality exists. Reason why the jury was forced unanimous was there's too many people like that.

Liking someone is bias. Disliking someone is bias. You can form opinion purely based on information, and not in-built, pre-conditioned choices that suit your identity.

No reaction or decision should be made on any emotional reception. They are merely extra sensory perceptions to the world around us, that we can acknowledge, and ignore to some extent.

If you know the motive and reasoning behind all chemical reactions in your entire anatomy and mind, then you will always be able to make a choice that distances itself from it being derived from any instinct.

Where is the balance if all opinions you construct are reactions revolved around your initial perception? Purely irrational. Edited June 8, 2008 by Milalover

[anllover]

the two posts are now merged

[Tangerine]

Thanks for help, Mergerman one bottle is easier to drink (^^)

[RQUEEN]

yes whether you like max or not, the man changed the porn scene from the early 1990's he made anal what it is today no matter what you think of him.

Him going down and the law changes mean a very sad day for freedom for everyone. Do not think that europe will stay safe. England is already fucked up too.

[anllover]

interestingly enough on the other end of the coin... the WBC or Fred Phelps. Both are pushing the limits or powers that be when it comes to 1st amendment rights but the very intersting thing happens when you merge the two.....


seems that "sodom" or anal sex is still illegal in many US states.

[z3n0mal4]

so this affects amateur hosting sites too ? freton will be banned too ? or just the selling porn material ?

[anllover]

so this affects amateur hosting sites too ? freton will be banned too ? or just the selling porn material ?

interesting thoughts. although as I said there are many states where sodomy is illegal, as well as fisting.

[latexbarbieTS]

And didnt the UK just pass the CJIA which bans and makes illegal any content like fisting, strapons, bdsm and such also? even if its your own personal stuff on your own PC. BLEH, and i did have a friend was was trying to talk me into doing a website which content would be fisting along with many other fetishes. ICK the world sucks nowadays.

barbie

[marlindickwater]

A sad day indeed. Paul Little (Max H. Steiner) has been a pioneer in the adult industry. From his early days as Sam Smythe in America's Nastiest Amateurs, to Anal Vision from the late Bobbie Hollander, to The Hitchhiker Series, to The Anal Adventures of Max Hardcore, and all of his Max World, Planet Max, and his current lineup, you can't deny Max changed the porn industry. Like him or not, he has stood up to protect the First Amendment and now he stands to loose everything he has worked for. So much for freedom. So now we can see a new world coming into view. The New World Order. Power, Control, and sites like this forum and others all gone. The globalizing and eventual control of the Porn industry and the internet is now coming to fruition. Enjoy it while it last folks, for the dark days of all of our lives are coming very soon.

INTERNET 2.0 IS HERE!!!
Watch in Horror of the Future of the NET

We've been lied to folks.

MD

[anllover]

MD the end of the net is already being discussed here
but I agree the two are obviously connected. I have added more reply in other topic.

Max is porns biggest protector and it is a shame he had to go down because of some stupid outdated religiously motivated laws. The real shame is we see this time and time again and yet people do not push to change the laws. Why still a marijuana law as it is? Why do many states not sell booze on Sunday? Why should anything between 2 grown FREE (supposedly) responsible consenting adults be illegal. And who's fucking business is it anyway!?!?! Any crime that has no victim is a crock of shit. Pushed into law by religion and there is supposed to be a separation of church and state. WTF?

[TBTB]

My daughter (18) was watching Jerry Springer the other day and I caught a few minutes of the programme (thanks for the export guys ) It was a show featuring brother/sister incestuous relationships. What a nice topic for daytime drivel TV At least the topic was discussed on a serious current affairs platform (where female participants get their tits out and have a fight ). Normal sexual activity is taboo; but fucking your sister is something you can talk about on daytime TV? All seems to be going a bit wobbly over the Atlantic. Thankfully; we have a very liberal society over here in the UK; where we can do whatever we like without fear of scrutiny or reprimand That was a joke for those that didn't catch on!

[Lord Raptor]

<<<Any crime that has no victim is a crock of shit. Pushed into law by religion and there is supposed to be a separation of church and state. WTF?>>>


Bravo!

How can sex between two consenting adults be considered a felony?

I live in the UK and it seems like gradually all hell is breaking loose.