Philip K Dick, Richard Matheson, Alfred Bester?

[Lord Raptor]

Hi guys,

I just finished reading a plethora of fiction books, mostly sci fi like The Stars my Destination and The Demolished Man by Alfred Bester, I am Legend by Richard Matheson, Ubik by philip K Dick and also the classic Homer' s Odyessey.

They are all great books full of interesting ideas and I was wondering if any of you like sci-fi and/or the classics?

[prolaptotron]

in a sense i would consider 1984 and brave new world sci-fi although their scope goes way beyond that, and classics they certainly are. if you have not read them then do so, they will make your penis unfeasibly large.

[bimboy]

Try Sci-fi's written after the invention of the internet - they're different.

Try: Richard Morgan

[Lord Raptor]

Cheers for the tips.

I read Brave New World and I thought it was excellent.

[Lord Raptor]

By the way, aren't Chasm City and Neuromancer more modern sci-fi tales? I've heard good things about both books.

I know many reckon that Neuromancer kick-started the cyberpunk genre.

[Tangerine]

I love (big) Dick, was stunned by "Le Maître du Haut -chateau", don't know the english title.
Do You know the real Philip K. Dick real story by US cartoonist master Robert Crumb in Weirdo Mag? Gr8 comix and gr8 author fo' sure.

Anybody knows any SF steampunkporn story hehe ? (^ ^) Edited May 26, 2007 by Tangerine

[GOP]

I love these guys, especially Dick. Huh Huh Huh....

The Stars My Destination. I am Legend and Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch are 3 of my favorite books.

If you enjoy PKD you need to find a collection of the short stories he did in the late 60's and 70's.

So get Eye of the Sygil or get I Hope I Shall Arrive Soon.

[bimboy]

If it must be last century, dont miss Robert A. Heinlein !
I've only read "Stranger in a Strange Land" - it's fantastic.
- and he's written MANY more : )

Still, the newer ones are more "exciting" because the authors can extrapolate from modern science: Internet, Nanotec, Genetics and Cosmology.

The visionary: Stephen Baxter, Alistair Reynolds, Iain M. Banks
The adventurous: Peter F. Hamilton
The Action: Walter Jon Williams and Richard Morgan
The Strange: China Mieville

[gninori]

as to philip k. dick, has anyone read the book "a scanner darkly". i saw the film based upon it. anyone did too? any relevant difference? plenty of info here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Scanner_Darkly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Scanner_Darkly_(film) Edited May 26, 2007 by gninori

[Tangerine]

"A scanner darkly" was an excellent surprise to me, very close to my view of Dick paranoia, especially on drug abuse patterns haha.
I hear recently that Dick is now (or will be soon) published in the most famous writers collection in America, (Writers of America or something like that, dunno) very close to the "La pleiade" collection we have in France where the most important authors are published. Another head writer (mostly speed & LSD) in the Hall of Fame muahaha.
The funny thing to me is that Dick's paranoid masterpieces are now frequently used by Hollywood moguls to get their hit movies as we are now living in some kind of Philip K; Dick weird and sick world. (^ ^)

an autobiographic comix novel by Robert Crumb on Dick in Weirdo magazine

[gninori]

"A scanner darkly" was an excellent surprise to me, very close to my view of Dick paranoia, especially on drug abuse patterns haha.
I hear recently that Dick is now (or will be soon) published in the most famous writers collection in America, (Writers of America or something like that, dunno) very close to the "La pleiade" collection we have in France where the most important authors are published. Another head writer (mostly speed & LSD) in the Hall of Fame muahaha.
The funny thing to me is that Dick's paranoid masterpieces are now frequently used by Hollywood moguls to get their hit movies as we are now living in some kind of Philip K; Dick weird and sick world. (^ ^)

an autobiographic comix novel by Robert Crumb on Dick in Weirdo magazine

crumb, yes, i guess living off the same allucinated enviroment than dick
here all the BD novel of crumb
http://www.philipkdickfans.com/weirdo/weirdo1.htm

and still about lisergic experiences there is this beautiful post at land of odd about an LP by timothy leary
http://www.midnitecrowproductions.com/land...26/112405.shtml
what beautiful covers

[Tangerine]

Great find Gni, thanx for digging this out, my Weirdo mags are hidden somewhere in my comix collection and I can't find it now so it's a pleasure to read these pages again ! Weird story isn't ? Internet is so nice to get infos now
But I don't think Crumb is as paranoid than Dick (he surely was at a certain time !), I met Crumb once, he's a very quiet and lonesome man with a wonderful inner life but not more hooked on drugs, he smoked weed and try many drugs of the pyschedelic era in the 60' (first Lsd trip in 65 I think) and the early 70' but he stop doing drugs a long time ago. Now he's living in a nice southern France village cottage where he write, draw and play music, living along with Aline Kominsky, his comix author wife.
Long live Crumb, one of my strongest shock on comix in my life !
Do you know Crumb's Mr SnoiD ? Somekind of a dwarf living in a girl asshole, a perfect RSBB hero! Robert Crumb have a long time obsession on big ass ladies and anal fantasies, yummy.
anal antics (^ ^)


http://www.lambiek.net/artists/c/crumb/cru...the_sixties.jpg Edited May 26, 2007 by Tangerine

[gninori]

Great find Gni, thanx for digging this out, my Weirdo mags are hidden somewhere in my comix collection and I can't find it now so it's a pleasure to read these pages again ! Weird story isn't ? Internet is so nice to get infos now
But I don't think Crumb is as paranoid than Dick (he surely was at a certain time !), I met Crumb once, he's a very quiet and lonesome man with a wonderful inner life but not more hooked on drugs, he smoked weed and try many drugs of the pyschedelic era in the 60' (first Lsd trip in 65 I think) and the early 70' but he stop doing drugs a long time ago. Now he's living in a nice southern France village cottage where he write, draw and play music, living along with Aline Kominsky, his comix author wife.
Long live Crumb, one of my strongest shock on comix in my life !
Do you know Crumb's Mr SnoiD ? Somekind of a dwarf living in a girl asshole, a perfect RSBB hero! Robert Crumb have a long time obsession on big ass ladies and anal fantasies, yummy.
anal antics (^ ^)


http://www.lambiek.net/artists/c/crumb/cru...the_sixties.jpg

i have always thought we have an artistic underground board. you that met master of underground comics robert crumb, curiousboy that met master of underground stories charles bukowsky
but not, i myself, that love cinema, never met emir kusturica master of "underground" period

[Tangerine]

i have always thought we have an artistic underground board. you that met master of underground comics robert crumb, curiousboy that met master of underground stories charles bukowsky
but not, i myself, that love cinema, never met emir kusturica master of "underground" period

Underground board, yeahhhhh !
That was just a business/publishing meeting 10 years ago that led nowhere alas. Just saw him a few times more in comix convention or on his concerts with his "group" "Les primitifs du futur" too. Always nice to meet a legend I always loved. But he's rather "shy".

So Curiousboy met Buk ? Woaow ! Cheers Curious ! I hope you got drunk with the Old timer hehe.

To meet Kusturica you should have come to Cannes 60th festival, he was here with the other "Palmes d'Or"… He sems the kind of man I could travel with muhahaha (^ ^) Edited May 27, 2007 by Tangerine

[gninori]

Underground board, yeahhhhh !
That was just a business/publishing meeting 10 years ago that led nowhere alas. Just saw him a few times more in comix convention or on his concerts with his "group" "Les primitifs du futur" too. Always nice to meet a legend I always loved. But he's rather "shy".

So Curiousboy met Buk ? Woaow ! Cheers Curious ! I hope you got drunk with the Old timer hehe.

To meet Kusturica you should have come to Cannes 60th festival, he was here with the other "Palmes d'Or"… He sems the kind of man I could travel with muhahaha (^ ^)

yes, curiousboy said in this very off-topic section that they sometimes got drunk together with some italian wine and when the old charlie was away he was too much of a dirty curious boy with his woman but maybe he will tell hat story again

i know that emir was at cannes but i didnt have l'argent to come and see l'or of his palm

[bumperfan]

Been reading sci-fi & fantasy all my life... Not to get off topic, butt my favorite fantasy/sci-fi author was Roger Zalazny--the "Amber" series, "Lord of Light".... How about "The Once and Future King"- T.H.White.... & of coarse Heinlein's "Time Enough For Love"... where a guy goes back in time to meet his family- before the story is done(about 1000pgs) he has fucked his computer that had her memory put into a female body, his 2 cloned twin sisters & his mother....& this was written in the 50's... way ahead of his time, don't U think!!!--bf

[Tangerine]

Been reading sci-fi & fantasy all my life... Not to get off topic, butt my favorite fantasy/sci-fi author was Roger Zalazny--the "Amber" series, "Lord of Light".... How about "The Once and Future King"- T.H.White.... & of coarse Heinlein's "Time Enough For Love"... where a guy goes back in time to meet his family- before the story is done(about 1000pgs) he has fucked his computer that had her memory put into a female body, his 2 cloned twin sisters & his mother....& this was written in the 50's... way ahead of his time, don't U think!!!--bf

Aaaah Bmpfy, Zelazny was my real fav 20 Years ago, I was hooked by the Princes of Amber (and gave the poison to my sons who are in heavyRP games now)I didn't well understand and appreciate Dick novels at that time, I must confess hehe. (^ ^)

[curiousboy]

So Curiousboy met Buk ? Woaow ! Cheers Curious ! I hope you got drunk with the Old timer hehe.

Yep, my buddy, Buck and me + couple of other italian friends and an american lawyer got so drunk on a magnum 5 lt. Barbera bottle, we had to give him a couple of "lines" to get him sober enough to be carried home. There was Linda waiting for him, we put him asleep and then she gave me a nice gratitude blowjob....ah good old 80`s!
I must to say, when he was totally pissed he became a bit of a pain in the ass...funny guy anyway!

Cheers Buck, I bet you look down sometimes and laugh your ass off!
Cheers to the 70`s and 80`s when everything was easy going!
Cheers to you my pals for...being here with me...

cb

[Tangerine]

Yep, my buddy, Buck and me + couple of other italian friends and an american lawyer got so drunk on a magnum 5 lt. Barbera bottle, we had to give him a couple of "lines" to get him sober enough to be carried home. There was Linda waiting for him, we put him asleep and then she gave me a nice gratitude blowjob....ah good old 80`s!

hahaha Bravissimo ! U lucky one, sucked off by the geniu's lady, sweet memories I think. U could make a novel on it:.

I must to say, when he was totally pissed he became a bit of a pain in the ass...funny guy anyway!

Yes ! I remember a famous litterary TV shows (the most viewed and top rank at this ancient times when we had clever TV programms), " Bernard Pivot 's Apostrophe's " ,when Buk was drinking 2 bottles of Alsace whine wine and get drunk live, laughing and pinching his female neighour nipples, he vomit live at the end, totally uncontrollable muhuhha ! : lol:

Cheers Buck, I bet you look down sometimes and laugh your ass off!
Cheers to the 70`s and 80`s when everything was easy going!
Cheers to you my pals for...being here with me...

Great cheers CuriousBoy, I think the same, friend. (^ ^)

[bodhi]

If you like the clasics & sience fiction, my personal recomendation would be Ilium and Olympos by Dan Simmons. But its best work it's still Hyperion and The fall of Hyperion.

Greetings

[mxdil]

If it must be last century, dont miss Robert A. Heinlein !
I've only read "Stranger in a Strange Land" - it's fantastic.
- and he's written MANY more : )

Heinlein rules!!!! And he has written a shitload of novels.
Also check out the old masters: Fredric Brown, Robert Bloch, Le Guin,...

And, for that matter, 1984 and Brave New World should be read by EVERYONE! And re-read every five or ten years! (And also Franz Kafka's Der Prozess)

[mxdil]

Yep, my buddy, Buck and me + couple of other italian friends...

You met him? I'm soooooooo not worthy

[Tangerine]

Aaaah Frederic Brown, that's a funny SF writer for my heart, MXdil !
I loved his novels and "Martians go home !" muha.

a silly comix from a Time machine Frederic Brown novel (^ ^)

[raxus23]

More Than Human by Theodore Sturgeon
City by Clifford Simak
Eon by Greg Bear
Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny
Are all excellent books.