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Hi,

This is my first post. I've had a fisting fetish for many years but haven't had a female friend who would do it to me. I am a heterosexual male. I was first fisted many years ago by a hooker who used a condom over her hand. She got in without pain and fairly easily. I came while she was fisting me without even being hard. Prior to that I used a butt plug briefly and an inflatable butt plug briefly as well. Both were used sporadically. A few years later between girlfriends, I used a dominatrix. She didn't quite get in in our one hour time slot. Recently I met an escort who loves doing it so much that she spent extra time with me. It's her favorite fetish. (Not just fisting but putting things in butts too.

 

I accidentally hit the post button so I'll continue in a message below in case someone is reading this incomplete message that I had to edit

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Our first date was for an hour. She got pretty deep. I know many people frown apon this, but she taught me the trick of using cocaine to help numb the ass. It was great as I am a user and getting it administered through your butt gives you a better feeling. some users administer it this way and it is called a booty bump or plugging by them. After my session, she texted me and said she would come back for 2 more hours at a great discount. I later found out she cancelled some calls in order to do this as she was really excited. She was almost in (I did not realize this when I told her my butt was a bit sore). I could have gotten in if I let her go a bit further.

I've seen her a number of times since but we were never able to get as deep.

 

Yikes. Windows is forcing me to reboot to install updates, so I will continue in a bit.

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I wrote a long detailed message that didn't get posted for some reason. I need to sleep so I will try to rewrite it tomorrow

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I'll try to continue. I wrote the last huge message on this laptop that I switched to. It might not have got posted because I had a script blocker on. Unfortunately I didn't copy it elsewhere. I'm using that laptop now but I have disabled the script blocker. I'll copy it before posting... just in case.

I should mention I had met another hooker who was totally uninhibited and got her to try to fist me. I was showing things up het but too. I joked asking if she would allow me to fist her ass and she said that she might yell and scream but I could try ;) I didn't do it as she was fairly tight that day even when I used toys on her. I became good friends with her and she was even living in my house until recently. Unfortunately, she didn't want to have sex with people that were her friends because many of her early sex associations involved violence. I never did anything else with her except one time before she said that to me. She was at my house for a couple of days and I had no idea when we were having sex or anything. When she wanted to do it, I hadn't had time to use an enema. I told her and she said don't worry. She got in almost all the way pretty painlessly and quickly but then she either felt something inside or smelled something and decided to stop. She was farly tiny and had small hands. On the first occasion where she didn't get in I had used poppers and we were drinking real absinthe which she had never tried before. It was supposed to be an hour call but she let me hang out for 5 hours. One of her johns was going to show for a 2 hour session though and I left even though she said I could come back afterward. I was pretty exhausted at the time (mostly partying). The second time at my house may have been the time she gave me some of her cocaine. I had used occasionally when I was in my early 20s. What I hadn't expected is that it gave me a mood lift (no euphoria though). I had been trying antidepressants for a few years that weren't working and I realized this had enough of a mood lift to make me feel like I wasn't depressed. So I've been using coke for that effect since. Likely I had done a few smallish lines of coke the day she could have got in.
That was about 5 months ago.

So my new enthusiastic fisting friend was not able to get in quite as deep as the first time. Based on recollection, I had used an old "Pure Amyl" popper that I got a couple of years ago, I was on Coke and she also used her coke technique. The Lube was Wet Uranus water based lube (I think the coke along the sphincter technique won't work unless it is water based lube to dissolve it and so it can be absorbed). She also used an anal relaxing spray that I got at some point called Intimate Organics Adventure for Woman - which contains clove, goji berry, aloe and lemongrass.

I wasn't able to see her again for 2 or 3 weeks. In the meantime I had read about people using jojoba oil in their lubes or using the silicone one with it in it. I ordered a couple of different pure organic bottles of it from amazon. I decided to try it out once it arrived and to see if I was still loose. I squirted some of the oil in my butt and I used the Wet Uranus lube. I didn't numb anything. I likely used a popper but I don't recall. I was able to quickly get my 4 fingers in easily when I pulled them out there was dark red blood on them. I noticed that my fingernails weren't perfectly trimmed, so I suspected that caused it.

For my next visit with her I had the Wet Uranus lube, the coke numbing trick, the jojoba oil, a bunch of new poppers and Eros Explorer anal relaxant. It contains Aqua, laureth-9, PEG-6 caprylic/capric glicerides, methyl lactate, lactic acid, eugenia,caryophyum, sodium benzonate, potassium sorbate, eugenol (whatever they are).
So we started with the eros explorer to loosen me up, she used the coke and lube, I asked her to pour a bit of the jojoba oil in. I got really loose but soon she saw the dark red blood and had to stop. I had a bad reaction to the Jojoba oil. I'm not sure if it was just too much or not refined in a certain way. I haven't read about others having a similar reaction. It did loosen things quite a bit but we stopped. An hour or two later, I notice the bleeding stopped. I called her and she was enthusiastic coming back. We did everything the same excluding the Jojoba oil. She did quite good. She wasn't able to get in as deep as her very first visit, but I was feeling great sensations as she was massaging and playing with the inner sphincter. She also got the walls between the 2 sphincters to expand to the size that a baseball might fit in. She would ask me to move in a certain way or take a hit from a popper as she held me open causing fart like noises as the muscles relaxed. After a while we stopped as it was daylight. All in all she spent more than 4 hours in my ass.

We've been staying in touch regularly. This time my external sphincter was tender from all the rubbing and pushing. There was no blood but it did hurt one time when I pooped. I wasn't sure how to make this quickly feel better. I ended up using a mixture of Preperation H and Hydro cortisone 1% and Tucks medicated wipes.

I called her back about 5 days later. This time, I used an app on my phone that sent video from it's camera to my laptop so that I could watch her while she fisted me. The phone was on a harness below her chest. I bought the harness on Amazon (if anyone wants to try). Because I kept looking up to watch, I wasn't relaxing properly (I think). I also decided to get her to use coke that I had in chunks that I hadn't powdered. They didn't absorb as well. I had also been microdosing on coke all day and I wanted to do a larger amount while she was here. I'm not sure if being off it mostly during the day affected anything.
She wasn't able to get too far. I was quite tight. We used poppers, JO H20 water based anal lube, Eros Explorer relaxing spray and Adam and Eve Easy Anal desensitizing gel which has 7.5% of Benzocaine. This Benzocaine gel says for external use on the bottle but their site tells you that it can be applied to toys before inserting meaning internal use. Trivia, most cocaine for sale these days has low purity. I get mine from a source that tests the highest level for purity using the Purity test kits. One of the common cuts in cocaine is benzocaine, so anyone who uses this technique may already be using benzocaine anyway.
During this visit I had also set up another laptop with a video camera snake. It's a tiny video camera surrounded by tiny lights that is on a long plastic cord. You can use this for many things including blocked pipes. I previously had to use it to make sure I had no tiny pieces of glass in my butt after I did a cocaine booty bump using a glass baby dropper that I cracked by mistake (it cracked outside my butt, but instead of thinking to push it out with my butt, I tried grabbing the end to pull it out. it ended up going in a bit and 2 tiny glass pieces were inside my butt. I was able to get them out using a ton of enemas. Fortunately I didn't have to go to the hospital and had to try to explain how I fell on the dropper and it went up my butt;)
We didn't get around to using this as I was not stretching. I'm really not sure what happened that day.
She came back the next day. I didn't use the laptops as I thought they were possibly distracting me from relaxing. I tried to recreate what we did the first day. I was pretty high before she got there, we used about a similar amount of coke as the first time, I switched back to the "Adventure for Woman" anal relaxer. Things went pretty well. she was stretching my inner sphincter and was able to get 4 fingers in and stretched it more. I asked her to try spraying the 'Adventure for Woman' relaxer on my inner sphincter. That was a mistake as red blood started appearing. We had to stop. That was yesterday.

It's funny that we got almost all the way in the first time but haven't done as well the others. I'm much more at ease with her now, so it's not nervousness.

One thing I forgot to mention is that I had large vinyl gloves and she is tall but thin. The gloves are a bit large and the rubbing irritates my outside sphincter. I'm thinking of trying nitrite gloves.

Any suggestions of what may help loosen me. I was occasionally stretching but it was very irregularly before the first time I saw the escort that easily got her fist in using just lube. I don't enjoy doing it myself anymore as it can't compare to her enthusiasm. Also, she plays around with my prostate from in there which helps. I haven't done anything else sexual with her while she fists me, but I wonder if doing something would help release chemicals that would help before going in.
I don't think my problem is relaxing as I am quite relaxed with her but I wonder if anyone tried the Android app Brainwaves for relaxation? It supposedly produces frequencies that cause your brain to go into a relaxation mode. You need to use it with headphones and I'm not sure if you will get all the frequencies with cheap headphones.

I should point out that I also regularly use Tylenol 3s (I have a tolerance so I don't even notice even if I take more) I think I took 4 or 5 just before she arrived the last couple of times.
I also take Clonazepam for anxiety daily. I tried taking extra before she came on the day I was tight. It didn't help.

Because of all the stretching time I would have expected some progress.

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I have heard that doctors use some sort of drug that allows them to dilate anal sphincters in hospitals for some procedures. Does anyone know what drug that is? ;)

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Honestly, I think your trying too hard. Poppers and j-lube is all you need. Ditch the camera's and apps and screens and just enjoy. It sounds like having to use coke and whatever special blend of lube is all in your head, you don't need that crap.

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Hi Wannab,

I am overdoing it with the frequency and duration of the sessions, I do realize. The coke thing I love as I end up really high (but still in control) while we are playing. I usually have a little bottle of pre liquified coke that I get her to throw in to me as she keeps my hole open with her fingers usually too which goes deeper and doesn't numb but gives me a pleasant feeling during the session. I would normally be snorting some anyway. It adds a dimension to the play that I hadn't thought of before. It does help with the friction on my outer sphincter as she is playing around. The way the jojoba relaxed me was incredible but due to the blood, it's possible that I might also be allergic to it. If I could use jajoba, she would be able to go totally in fairly easy.

The first time when I was easily fisted all we used was whatever lube the girl had in her room. At the time, I used to do weed daily, but I don't recall if I had been using during that exact period. I slowly lost interest in weed as my lost contact with my good suppliers, so I don't recall if I was using at the time.

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The first time when I was easily fisted all we used was whatever lube the girl had in her room.

 

Isnt this the time your trying relive? No coke, no jojoba, no premix coke, no cameras and screens...Just sayin, not bagging

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I was using plugs once in a while before the first time, but it wasn't often. That was the first time I was fisted, so it may have been somewhat unusual for it to happen successfully like that and fairly quickly. That girl was a regular escort and she had only fisted 1 other person. She must have gotten in in 30 minutes or less. Her hand may have been smaller too though. My current friend is slim but quite tall so her hand might be bigger.

She texted me unexpectedly shortly after I woke up today. So we got together again totally unexpectedly. This time I thought of asking her to put some jojoba only on the outside of the anus with a q-tip and only before we added lube as I did not want any sliding in. I used Astroglide Gel for sensitive skin which is the thickest of all the water based ones I tried. We didn't use any other relaxers but we used coke and poppers. She said when I would talk to her about stuff, she noticed my muscles relaxed, so she got me talking. I also thought of trying a to change it up a bit to help me relax. I got her to smother me a couple of times first which is something I never tried before. She was able to get in. She got as far as the edge of the glove in depth. Her hand was red from the pressure of the my sphincter slowing the blood circulation in her hand.

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Sounds....complicated. I'd recommend just relaxing and getting into a daily stretching routine. It may not be as exciting as doing it with someone else but you'll appreciate the hard work you've put into stretching when you're together.

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I do know that stretching would definitely make things easier but she is so into this as it is her favorite fetish, that I'm letting her get the full progress as she pushes me more. I don't think she has ever done that before. I'm not telling her that I'm doing it that way a bit for her as well though. She gets really excited and is constantly in touch with me - she often gets horny and gets me to have totally unplanned fisting sessions with her with sometimes almost no notice. Also she is coming up with really creative things she wants to do once we get further. Some of them, i hadn't thought of before.

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As long as your sessions are regular and frequent, go for it! Just don't go too long between sessions...I remember one time when I was forced to use up some rolled-over vacation at work and basically spent five days doing nothing but playing with my sex toys, I got to the point where I could take the Ace of Spades. Recently, though, with work and family and life being so busy I haven't had many play opportunities and the last time I did it kinda hurt to take in the dildo I formerly used as a starter. :/

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For some reason, I seem to be unable to relax my exterior sphincter a number of the times we got together. We did have a fun overnight marathon session a couple of days ago. We played for about 4 hours. Most of the time her hand was in my butt although not totally in. She goes fairly slow as she doesn't want to hurt me (although sometimes a bit of pain can be fun). She had to go for about an hour and came back. We decided to put an inflatable butt plug in, slightly inflated to keep me open. When she got back and we removed it I got tighter and she had trouble getting 5 fingers in after quite a bit of time.

Yesterday we played and I was still somewhat tight. I just couldn't relax my exterior muscle. There were a couple of days early on where it was somewhat painful to poop now and then the next day, so I'm wondering if my brain is unconsciously remembering that. Her technique is great so she doesn't push me too hard. Also I have a great connection with her. Fisting and putting things in butts is her favorite thing in the world. She has a number of males and females that she has fisted.

Anyway, I probably didn't mention this, but I also snort small amounts of crystal meth regularly, in a drug forum there was a topic about drugs for relaxing during anal sex. It was mostly anal sex although fisting did come up a couple of times. One person suggested putting finely ground crystal into the lube and dissolving it, the placing the crystal-lube on a dildo before inserting. I decided to give it a shot yesterday. I got her to put some into the lube and inserted her lubed finger. There was a mild burning feeling and it led to a bit of relief shortly after. The crystal was ultra fine as I use a special grinder, Things didn't hurt but I couldn't properly relax. The relief from pain was good (it doesn't numb everything, nor does coke.) but it lasts longer than coke. In case anyone want to try crystal, when it wears off be prepared for a bit of a burning sensation that lasts about an hour once it wears off. It wasn't terrible but... I did buy an 8.5% Benzocaine anal gel which I barely used because it says for external use only. Then I realized that all of the Benzocaine lubes say that on the back. I guess it's for protection from lawsuits due to injuries not noticed due to numbness.

At some point when I feel ready I will be getting her to do it while I'm on MDMA. It is good for relaxing muscles and will make me feel more of what she is doing inside. She can't have anal sex, on MDMA she did it and had no sensitivity the next day. The MDMA I have sounds like it had similar effects to the one I have at the moment based on her description of the feel (every time I bought it previously as either MDMA or Ecstasy it was completely different (I did not test the previous ones).

Other than recreational drugs, I know there are some exercises. I never really had this issue before. I don't particularly care for toying myself while alone anymore - and in this case leaving the toy in for an hour or so to keep me spread seemed to make things worse. I'm not really sure what to try.

I might try the silicon anal lube with Jojoba. I got super wide when I squirted pure jojoba oil in. It caused bleeding because it was concentrated. Perhaps this might help. I've been using water lubes and gels so far but they aren't quite as slick so I usually get a rash from the rubbing of her loose fitting vinyl gloves. There would have likely been less with the bjur gel. I ordered tighter gloves for her too.

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I should add that using crystal in the lube was not a great idea. I should have considered that if it can make your nostril hurt (burn) if you snort it, why would your ass that is more tender especially after getting a workout would feel any better? I won't be doing that again, although I do prepare a liquid mixture of coke and crystal in water that she pours into me wile she holds my ass open with her fingers. It doesn't necessarily help with what she is doing, but it makes me feel good. If any crystal goes in there again, it will be that way, it runs down the intestine and gets absorbed. I only recently heard of doing certain drugs this way. Because it goes into your butt, it gets absorbed quickly into your bloodstream. It's called a booty bump or plugging. It's still a very taboo route of using and it's mostly guys that get weird when it's mentioned (are they internally thinking they will become 'gay'??) I honestly don't know. I don't judge people. I'd rather put a drug in my butt rather than using a needle, myself. I actually was nervous about mentioning crystal even though most people on this board are very openminded. I did coke when I was young once in a while. I met the girl who tried fisting me previous to my new girl, in March, She let me try some of her coke. I had been depressed almost continuously for a year, trying different meds. I found coke elevated my mood and although no euphoria happened, I was no longer depressed. So after not using any for about 20 years, I started using again. After a while the mood lift stopped happening and I started micro-dosing crystal which got my mood back up. I was given a dose of ketamine to try which others say they sometimes use. It made me feel really drunk-like and needed to lie down. I didn't really enjoy it and fisting or any sex would not have been good the way that I felt. Perhaps a lower dose, but I'm unlikely to try.

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Crystal does make it hard to make yourself pee. Because I used extra in the last few sessions I had this experience which is quite common to people who use more than I. I have a theory that it might be be making my sphincter tight and unable to relax. My butt is a bit tender from last time, so I thought I'd put some cream, someone suggested Preperation H in. When I pushed my finger in, It was quite tight. On a drug forum someone made a brief reference that he couldn't defecate easy on crystal in a topic devoted to peeing while on it. I had been using more crystal the last few times. I couldn't find anyone else mention my theory, so I don't know. I guess next time I will have to go back to a small dose. At this point, if I don't use it at all, I end up feeling ill. Fortunately I don't use much.

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So... you're a drug addict with a tight butt.

 

Got it.

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Unfortunately, or fortunately, as I do not know how long these will help, I got back into those two above mentioned drugs.just recently. I am unable to get euphoria from them, so I don't get cravings. It also means I go back to my drug resistant clinically depressed state that I had been in for the last many years when I stop. There are physical withdrawal symptoms I got when even these stopped elevating my mood. I figured why keep buying them if they don't help. Some of the symptoms of withdrawal were exhaustion, hot cold sweats, cramps, aches. They are temporarily helping with my mood again at this time (they stopped working for about a month), so we'll see how long it lasts. Previous to this year the last time I did coke was around 1992 or 1993. It was just by chance that I met that girl who gave me some and I was able to feel normal again. The anti depressants that I kept trying usually had horrific side effects and didn't actually help. I was discussing the possibility of getting Electro Convulsive Therapy with my doctor as nothing was working. Also known as Electro Shock Therapy, It works for many people almost like it resets your brain. Unfortunately you will permanently lose some memories each time you do it. It needs to be done a number of times. My neighbor's friend lost her ability to play piano. As I play guitar, that would not be very good. So given my choices, what would you have done? An example of my depressed state, I had let the hose get infested with hundreds of mice. There was mice poop everywhere, covering everything and I didn't care... nothing mattered at the time.

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4 hours ago, Rosebutt said:

So... you're a drug addict with a tight butt.

 

Got it.

You forgot the drug addict hooker, but close enough.

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Technically my worst addiction is to Benzos. My family doctor prescribed them for daily use after I complained of a chest pain that I woke up with one day due to anxiety. He told me to take 1 Adivan (spelling?) 4 times daily. He was an old guy and did not know how bad it is to due that due to how addictive they are. I dd not know anything about them at the time. I should have only been given them for a short time. Later I told him that the pills were giving me anxiety, so he gave me stronger ones Clonazepam. I don't feel anything when I take them, so it's not like I'm enjoying taking them. Many years later, I tried weaning off them. After 3 days of hell, I was hospitalized. I had to go to a higher dose after that incident. The 4 I was taking no longer were enough and I am prescribed 5 now. They are one of the few drugs that can kill you if you stop. The people who have tapered off them still get withdrawal symptoms years after they stopped. I getting off heroin is much easier and it won't kill you. I don't take heroin by the way in case anyone is wondering.

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Hold on, let me get this straight. You're taking, in various dosages and at various times, all of the following:

-coke

-meth

-poppers

-alcohol

-codeine

-tranquilizers

-ketamine

-MDMA

 

But not heroin....dude, how do you even see straight? I can't even begin to figure out what effect all of those things together would have on the human body in general (biology in freshman year of high school is many years behind me), never mind as they pertain to butt play. I feel like we need both a doctor and a biochemist in here to help figure this out. :)

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He's a troll. 

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Thanks wannab for sticking up for me. I actually was starting to feel awkward after the last couple of replies. I try not to lie about things but I know once certain things are mentioned they can bring on people judging me. Hardly anyone knows about my fisting fetish. Even the drug forums where I research what I take or try, are very judgemental and say things like 'I'm not sticking anything up my butt' when offering non-helpful comments in threads about booty bumping some drugs. Honestly some antidepressants I tried had horrific side effects and they are legal. I'm not saying that I will not try them again (antidepressants), but side effects included difficulty getting an erection, one made me afraid to leave the house a few times, nausea. I don't honestly wish to think about all that. When they originally worked, they were great, but with me, things stop working after a while. The last 3 years only one combination of anti depressants worked for almost exactly a month. Side effects included extreme nausea though that required me to take strong anti nausea pills usually given to cancer patients. That was still a good month.

Anyway progression isn't great but I remembered the girl with the small hands who would have been in with her second try. I was using real Absinthe (not the commercial stuff currently available which doesn't have the full ingredients). I tried it with my new friend and she was here for a short time but made good progress. There is usually pink in the lube but this time there was none. The next time, she found my sounding kit and was stretching me with that while putting 3 fingers in my butt to press on my prostate at the same time. It was sensory overload and I was squirming in pleasure. So much so that I had to ask her to stop. I let her be spontaneous so that was a bit unexpected. Anyway I'll be seeing her soon. The fisting thing is her favorite fetish, so she is great with amazing technique. At one point I could feel her playing with my second sphincter which was a unique experience.

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